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Old 01.10.2018, 01:29 AM   #481
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Old 01.10.2018, 01:31 AM   #482
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one last look at 2017 top by selftitled mag.

Actress – AZD (Ninja Tune)
Alessandro Cortini – Avanti (Point of Departure)
Algiers – The Underside of Power (Matador)
Arca – Arca (XL)
Ariel Pink – Dedicated to Bobby Jameson (Mexican Summer)
Bell Witch – Mirror Reaper (Profound Lore)
Ben Frost – The Centre Cannot Hold (Mute)
Bicep – Bicep (Ninja Tune)
Bill MacKay & Ryley Walker – SpiderBeetleBee (Drag City)
Bing & Ruth – No Home of the Mind (4AD)
Björk – Utopia (One Little Indian)
Blanck Mass – World Eater (Sacred Bones)
Brainwaltzera – Poly-Ana (FILM)
Broken English Club – The English Beach (L.I.E.S.)
Bvdub – Heartless (n5MD)
Call Super – Arpo (Houndstooth)
Charlotte Gainsbourg – Rest (Because Music)
Charly Bliss – Guppy (Barsuk)
Chino Amobi – PARADISO (UNO NYC)
Colleen – A flame my love, a frequency (Thrill Jockey)
Converge – The Dusk in Us (Epitaph)
Death of Lovers – The Acrobat (Dais)
Delia Gonzalez – Horse Follows Darkness (DFA)
Dj Python – Dulce Compañia (Incienso)
DJ Sports – Modern Species (Firecracker Recordings)
Drab Majesty – The Demonstration (Dais)
Equiknoxx – Colón Man (DDS)
Ellen Arkbro – For Organ and Brass (Multiverse)
Ex Eye – Ex Eye (Relapse)
Felicia Atkinson – Hand in Hand (Shelter Press)
Fever Ray – Plunge (Mute)
Four Tet – New Energy (Text)
GAS – Narkopop (Kompakt)
Greg Fox The Gradual Progression (RVNG Intl.)
Iona Fortune – Tao of I (Optimo Music)
James Holden – The Animal Spirits (Border Community)
Jana Rush – Pariah (Objects Limited)
Jane Weaver – Modern Kosmology (Fire)
Japan Blues – Sells His Record Collection (Japan Blues)
JASSS – Weightless (iDEAL Recordings)
Jean-Michel Blais x CFCF – Cascades (Arts & Crafts)
Jlin – Black Origami (Planet Mu)
John Maus – Screen Memories (Ribbon Music)
Juana Molina – Halo (Crammed Discs)
Juju & Jordash – Sis-boom-bah! (Dekmantel)
Justin Walter – Unseen Forces (Kranky)
Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith – The Kid (Western Vinyl)
Kara-Lis Coverdale – Grafts (Boomkat Editions)
Karen Gwyer – Rembo (Don’t Be Afraid)
Kassel Jaeger – Aster (Editions Mego)
Kelela – Take Me Apart (Warp)
Kelly Lee Owens – Kelly Lee Owens (Smalltown Supersound)
King Krule – The OOZ (True Panther Sounds)
Konrad Sprenger – Stack Music (PAN)
Laurel Halo – Dust (Hyperdub)
Lawrence English – Cruel Optimism (Room40)
LCD Soundsystem – american dream (Columbia / DFA)
Lee Gamble – Mnestic Pressure (Hyperdub)
Liars – TFCF (Mute)
Molly Nilsson – Imaginations (Dark Skies / Night School)
Mount Eerie – A Crow Looked at Me (P.W. Elverum & Sun)
Mount Kimbie – Love What Survives (Warp)
Nabihah Iqbal – Weighing of the Heart (Ninja Tune)
Nathan Fake – Providence (Ninja Tune)
Ninos Du Brasil – Vida Eterna (Hospital Productions)
Not Waving – Good Luck (Diagonal)
Oneohtrix Point Never – Good Time Original Soundtrack (Warp)
Penelope Trappes – Penelope One (Optimo Music)
Perfume Genius – No Shape (Matador)
Pessimist – Pessimist (Blackest Ever Black)
Phase Fatale – Redeemer (Hospital Productions)
Philippe Hallais – An American Hero (Modern Love)
Porter Ricks – Anguilla Electrica (Tresor)
Priests – Nothing Feels Natural (Sister Polygon)
Protomartyr – Relatives in Descent (Domino)
Rafael Anton Irisarri – The Shameless Years (Umor-Rex)
Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement – Ambient Black Magic (Hospital Productions)
Rat Columns – Candle Power (Upset the Rhythm)
Richard Dawson – Peasant (Weird World)
Sannhet – So Numb (Profound Lore)
Sarah Davachi – All My Circles Run (Students of Decay)
Sevendeaths – Remote Sympathy (LuckyMe)
Shinichi Atobe From the Heart, It’s a Start, a Work of Art (DDS)
Sleaford Mods – English Tapas (Rough Trade)
Slowdive – Slowdive (Dead Oceans)
Steffi – World of the Waking State (Ostgut Ton)
SW. – The Album (R&S)
Talaboman – The Night Land (R&S)
Tarawangsawelas – Wanci (Morphine)
The Bug x Earth – Concrete Desert (Ninja Tune)
The Horrors – V (XL)
The Necks – Unfold (Ideologic Organ)
The War on Drugs – A Deeper Understanding (Atlantic)
Thurston Moore – Rock N Roll Consciousness (Caroline)
Tom Rogerson x Brian Eno – Finding Shore (Dead Oceans)
Tszuzing – In a Moment a Thousand Hits (Bedouin)
Varg – Nordic Flora Series Pt. 3: Gore-Tex City (Northern Electronics)
Vince Staples – Big Fish Theory (Def Jam)
Visible Cloaks – Reassemblage (RVNG Intl.)
Zola Jesus – Okovi (Sacred Bones)


I never heard new Alessandro Cortiny stuff either!
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Old 01.10.2018, 01:34 AM   #483
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Yeah, right at the end there. Songs of Experience. Haven’t heard it but got it for my stepfather for Christmas. Probably terrible beyond measure.

oh, so it is out like now. I see. not that I am excited, it is just normally there is some fuss around it, or maybe it is because I am not listening to commercial radio anymore and thankfully I am able to avoid the com. radio in work too these days.
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Old 01.10.2018, 11:36 AM   #484
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oh, so it is out like now. I see. not that I am excited, it is just normally there is some fuss around it, or maybe it is because I am not listening to commercial radio anymore and thankfully I am able to avoid the com. radio in work too these days.

I’m the same way. I listen to what I listen to. I visit music news sites and check stuff out when it gets a rec but my eyes just go right past headlines like “U2 to release new album.” They were on be cover of Rolling Stone this month, and Bono was in the news for calling music “girlie” though, so that brought it into focus a bit.

I’m comfortable with the fact that I enjoy a handful of U2 songs from the Unforgettable Fire days, and have a trivial pop appreciation for some of their ‘90s singles, but aside from that I think they’re actually an extremely unimportant band. The Police had a bigger influence on pop music, and still do. So did the Cure, Clash, DM, REM. U2 is only one of the biggest bands in the world because people’s options in the rock realm are so limited.
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one last look at 2017 top by selftitled mag.



Some good stuff on that list (Blanck Mass, DJ Sports, Arca, Visible Cloaks, Not Waving, Zola Jesus) but what a dick ass move not to include Kendrick Lamar.

The burdens of having the #1 album in Rolling Stone, Spin, Time, Pitchfork, etc., etc. is that some fuckers just want to be contrarians.

Any 2017 list that doesn’t include DAMN. is a joke.
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Some of us just honestly aren't interested in certain areas of music. That's not a problem. It just comes up the differences and taste, and taking differences in taste personally is a game for 12 year olds. I don't have time in my life for that music and that's perfectly okay. It doesn't make me any less developed of an aesthete.
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Some of us just honestly aren't interested in certain areas of music. That's not a problem. It just comes up the differences and taste, and taking differences in taste personally is a game for 12 year olds. I don't have time in my life for that music and that's perfectly okay. It doesn't make me any less developed of an aesthete.

Who’s talking about you? Who’s taking anything personally?

Just sucks for mags that deliberately don’t include an album just to look edgy when it’s obviously something special.

And honestly, excluding entire genres because you “don’t have time” kinda does make you a less developed aesthete. Your aesthetic will be less developed if you exclude entire genres of music than it would be if you didn’t. At the very least you’re limiting yourself if you refuse to listen to music based on some stubborn decision that it’s not “for you” or whatever.

I didn’t realize you did this — and maybe you don’t — so I’m not bashing you. But if you look at genres and just say “naaah,” that’s not exactly going to help you *develop* your aesthetic... erm... prowess?

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Kendrick Lamar is one of those artists who you just instinctively know is absolute trash without having actually heard them.

Thought i'd entertain the thought; Just managed 30 seconds of a track called Stars on youtube before I had to turn it off after nausea kicked in when the auto-tune vocals started. Managed 10 seconds of another song where he's repeating the same words over and over. He basically sounds derelict. That's me done. Lel.

Wow, really? That’s the first Kendrick song you’ve ever heard? The one for the superhero movie? The first one that I’ve ever seen get a negative review? Laaaaame.

You know... it’s not actually cool to not know about stuff. This is something it took me a long time to learn. You perceive something to be unworthy, cuz yr punk or whatever (not YOU you, but “you” in general... “one”) and then things change and suddenly you live in an era where one of the most subversive artists in music is not on your radar because you don’t do stuff that isn’t pure feedback or harsh noise or known by nobody, etc.

Times have a’changed, and you’re missing out.

Listen to this and at least give him a fair shake:

Kendrick Lamar - “The Blacker the Berry”

What you did is like judging the Beatles based on “Yellow Submarine.” (Dumb.)
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What's dumb is not comprehending the fact i listened to 2 tracks ...and for a massive combined total of 40 seconds.

It seems youtube took the link down because it wasn't pure feedback enough - don't worry about finding a link I've heard snippets of said track and some other grotesque ear assault and whilst they faired better they were still propa' wack innit.

Your loss, boyo.
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is Kendrick Lamar rap music, or trap or smth.? seriously, never heard anything he has done. do not know who is he, just seen him popping out on the best off lists recently.
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Who’s talking about you? Who’s taking anything personally?

Just sucks for mags that deliberately don’t include an album just to look edgy when it’s obviously something special.

And honestly, excluding entire genres because you “don’t have time” kinda does make you a less developed aesthete. Your aesthetic will be less developed if you exclude entire genres of music than it would be if you didn’t. At the very least you’re limiting yourself if you refuse to listen to music based on some stubborn decision that it’s not “for you” or whatever.

I didn’t realize you did this — and maybe you don’t — so I’m not bashing you. But if you look at genres and just say “naaah,” that’s not exactly going to help you *develop* your aesthetic... erm... prowess?

(Shrug)
I hate checking back in here simply to say that way you're saying is utter fucking idiocy, but this is utter fucking idiocy so I'm going to....do you not understand that we don't live in giant bubbles, that culture is segmented largely in accordance with taste and the reason people gravitate towards certain communities (and thereby create publications that shit out lists) are because they may feel alienated by other stuff? that's not to diss them, it's not to invalidate them, it just isn't something that people want in their world.

seriously dude for someone who's seemingly constantly moaning about how stuff like pitchfork et al are satan incarnate you're a real tastemaker fascist.
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For the record:
I just listened to 10 seconds of Kendrick Lamar (the song called DNA) and I never want to hear anything of it again. Not my kind of music at all. I don't like 99% of rap / hiphop/whateveryoucallit music. I get nausea when I listen to him rapping and the bass pumping. And I especially don't like the message they are peaching in most of the rap music.

I do wonder why nobody (?) mentioned the Prophets Of Rage in this thread or anywhere else on this forum. Fuck, now that's a cool album!
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I hate checking back in here simply to say that way you're saying is utter fucking idiocy, but this is utter fucking idiocy so I'm going to....do you not understand that we don't live in giant bubbles, that culture is segmented largely in accordance with taste and the reason people gravitate towards certain communities (and thereby create publications that shit out lists) are because they may feel alienated by other stuff? that's not to diss them, it's not to invalidate them, it just isn't something that people want in their world.

seriously dude for someone who's seemingly constantly moaning about how stuff like pitchfork et al are satan incarnate you're a real tastemaker fascist.

Hah. But you always stop by to tell me why what I like isn’t real music.

Anyway, whatever. Least we have Ambarchi in common.

I forget what you even said to prompt what I said to prompt this reply, so fuck it. I just think you’re a dick and I will happily fuck with you any chance I get. Which I think is how you see me, so there’s a bizarre calculus to all of this.

Of course everyone’s free to like whatever, and I wouldn’t honestly expect Kendrick to be on literally every list.
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I wouldn’t honestly expect Kendrick to be on literally every list.

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I'm not trying to fuck with you, I just see you shit out a lot of thoughtless fallacies which I understand is going to be the case, it's the internet, but when you're decrying a culture towards which people gravitate as a direct result of feeling disenfranchised by other stuff, then have the audacity to moan about their lack of association with what amounts to little more than a zeitgeist, I'm going to take offence because it's total stupidity.


you're constantly going on about how taste is subjective as a means with which to justify your listening to stuff that ideologically runs completely counter to other stuff, then complain when people don't like something and critique them for the exact thing you're standing up for?
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I'm not trying to fuck with you, I just see you shit out a lot of thoughtless fallacies which I understand is going to be the case, it's the internet, but when you're decrying a culture towards which people gravitate as a direct result of feeling disenfranchised by other stuff, then have the audacity to moan about their lack of association with what amounts to little more than a zeitgeist, I'm going to take offence because it's total stupidity.


you're constantly going on about how taste is subjective as a means with which to justify your listening to stuff that ideologically runs completely counter to other stuff, then complain when people don't like something and critique them for the exact thing you're standing up for?

Sure, fair enough!

I’m sure I do all these things.

And yet, it’s ok for me to think it’s silly for anyone to claim DAMN. wasn’t one of the best albums of the year.

It’s ok. It really is.
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lol

Oh, come on. You can’t be that utterly devoid of a sense of humor.

I’m not contradicting my comment that I think (*think.* see? Still all subjective here) any list that doesn’t at least mention Kendrick is a joke by saying that I don’t expect literally ever lost to mention him.

Some lists are just wrong. Oh, I should say “in my opinion” so you don’t accidentally think I’m writing new rules for existence here.

Lighten thee up.
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