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Old 10.19.2017, 06:27 AM   #421
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NR - I picked up the first two Vision books by Tom King at the library — “Little Worse than a Man” and “Little Better than a Beast.”

I can tell you right of the bat that the art is nowhere near as compelling or beautiful as that of “Mister Miracle,” which is truly every bit as top-notch as the writing. But I’m still excited to read these.

I also picked up the first two volumes of “new” Thor, which is now kind of old, but yeah.

I’ve read a bunch of crap lately. Alias Investigations on the MAX imprint, Astonishing X-Men by Joss Whedon, The New Avengers: Breakout, Deadpool’s Skrull war antics from 2009 or whatever, Captain America: the Winter Soldier, and Thor by J.Michael Straczynski. Also other stuff. There’s some decent free reading on Amazon Prime, btw.

I also read Teen Titans: Rebirth book 1 (“Damian Knows Best”) and god... bunch of other shit.

Dark Nights: Metal is still awesome. If you haven’t read that, you’re not into comics.
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Those two Vision books are the only two Vision books man. The series was only 12 issues.

Art preference is well, preference of course. I find the Vision art super easy on the eyes. Soothing almost.

Re: Dark Nights Metal... I know you want me to be interested in it. But I can't seem to get myself to be. I think this is just one of those cases of "we have similar interests, but prefer different things within those interests." Of course we know that you're way more into DC than I am. And I can only juggle so many Bat-books at once. I'm planning to get back into the main series now that Joelle Jones is doing the art. And White Night looks really good.

Alias - YES! Both Alias and The Pulse are so so great. A million times better than the current JJ series which feels so aimless.

Astonishing Whedon X-Men is totally on my want-to-read list.

I do have Prime and I often download free stuff there... but then never read it. As convenient as tablet comics sound, I just never seem to actually read them and instead go over to my always growing pile of physical comic books that I still have unread.

I still keep my stupid little reading journal blog, but here's what I've read most recently:

The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows #10
Astonishing X-Men (2017) #2
Hawkeye #9
Marvel Legacy #1
TMNT #73
Runaways (2017) #1
The Vision: Director's Cut #2 (issues 3&4)
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Old 10.19.2017, 02:18 PM   #423
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Those two Vision books are the only two Vision books man. The series was only 12 issues.

Art preference is well, preference of course. I find the Vision art super easy on the eyes. Soothing almost.

Re: Dark Nights Metal... I know you want me to be interested in it. But I can't seem to get myself to be. I think this is just one of those cases of "we have similar interests, but prefer different things within those interests." Of course we know that you're way more into DC than I am. And I can only juggle so many Bat-books at once. I'm planning to get back into the main series now that Joelle Jones is doing the art. And White Night looks really good.

Alias - YES! Both Alias and The Pulse are so so great. A million times better than the current JJ series which feels so aimless.

Astonishing Whedon X-Men is totally on my want-to-read list.

I do have Prime and I often download free stuff there... but then never read it. As convenient as tablet comics sound, I just never seem to actually read them and instead go over to my always growing pile of physical comic books that I still have unread.

I still keep my stupid little reading journal blog, but here's what I've read most recently:

The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows #10
Astonishing X-Men (2017) #2
Hawkeye #9
Marvel Legacy #1
TMNT #73
Runaways (2017) #1
The Vision: Director's Cut #2 (issues 3&4)


Well, Dark Nights: Metal is not really a bathbook. Honestly, the tie-ins are all about alternate reality characters that are definitely NOT Batman, but are Dark Multiverse versions of Bruce Wayne. Theyíre about other characters, and new characters. I donít love ALL of it, but itís one of the most worth-reading major titles out there. For an ďeventĒ itís surprisingly addictive and fun.

Batman hasnít been in any books since the second issue.


Anyway...

Now reading the Vision series and youíre right, itís blooody amazing.
I hear Tom King worked for the CIA before writing. Smart dude.
Strongly dislike the art, but the story is bumpiní and creepy.

Mister Miracle... now! Do it! Read it now! Read Mister Miracle #1 you bastard! I canít do all the leg work in this kinda friendship
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Old 10.19.2017, 02:22 PM   #424
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see you're still not selling me on Metal. I think I might kind of tired of 'events' lately anyway. I don't know. I'd probably be more interested if I didn't already have so much to read right now, and not enough time to read it. I'm playing catch-up on a lot of stuff that I love as it is.

The Vision art is obviously a taste thing. I really love it.

I'm totally picking up Mister Miracle #1 as soon as I can get to the comic shop. I may do that tomorrow if I have time. But yeah, next time I get there I'll pick it up, promise.
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Old 10.19.2017, 05:02 PM   #425
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Well, there is a lot to wade through in Metal. Especially if you haven’t read Snyder and Capullo’s run on New 52 Batman (the “Court of Owls” arc, to which Metal is a long-delayed; and MUCh grander, follow-up). There are two rather dense prologue issues (The Forge and the Casting), both of which are kinda meh, and honestly didn’t really sell me on anything... they feature art by John Romita Jr., who is actually one of my favorite artists in comics, but I absolutely LOATHE the way he draws Batman. Not lithe or derailed enough... too blocky for the character, kind of like his equally off-base drawing of Spider-Man (characters he draws well include Thor, Daredevil, Superman, the Eternals, Hulk, etc.)

But... once Batman disappears from the whole thing (which happens near the end of Dark Nights: Metal #2 I think) and the tie-ins — single issues focusing on the various Dark Multiverse incarnations of Bats, how they came to be, andhow they were tracked down and recruited by the Batman Who Laughs (Joker-Batman) and his master, the dark cosmic deity Barbatos (basically Spectre-Batman, a creature older than time), it really gets good.

The issue that just came out for instance, Batman: The Drowned; is about the Batman/Awuaman character (who is a woman, so... kind of a Bat-Aqua-Man-Woman?) is just PHENOMENAL. A genuinely great story about a really intriguing character.

Ad next up is the Ares/Batman mashup, the Merciless. Then the Doomsday/Batman, the Devastator.

I think some of these characters might end up sticking around after Metal is over. The Drownedis VERY popular, and frankly it’s one of the best comics featuring Aquaman that I’ve ever read.

Anyhoo... you could probably skip the preludes and start with Dark Nights: Metal 1, and judt read the intro paragraph to catch up on those boring Romita-drawn issues.

But... Mister Miracle is really the best thing happening in DC right now. That and Action Comics, which is dealing with Mr. Oz, and swiftly moving toward the beginning of DOOMSDAY CLOCK, which is absolutely not something you’re going to want to miss.
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Old 10.19.2017, 05:04 PM   #426
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I just picked up The Mighty Thor #700, which features the death of Jane Foster and Odinson’s return to the mantle of Thor. It’s 50 pages, and I haven’t started it yet, but it’s drawn by Walter Simonson, so I am so totally down. It’s part of the whole “Legacy” thing.


ALSO: Deadpool vs. Old Man Logan started this week. I haven’t read it yet, but it’s one I inagine you will be all over.
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I will def read Doomsday Clock.

Thor 700 looks good.

Too many Deadpool miniseries to keep up with. Deadpool v Punisher was kind of meh. Think my fav Deadpool story this year was Til Death Do Us. That was pretty great.
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I will def read Doomsday Clock.

Thor 700 looks good.

Too many Deadpool miniseries to keep up with. Deadpool v Punisher was kind of meh. Think my fav Deadpool story this year was Til Death Do Us. That was pretty great.

Old Man Logan is great though. Honestly got me back into Wolverine. Not just the original book, but the current ongoing series.

The Deadpool stuff is gimmicky, but so is most of what Marvel does.
I never even read Edge of Venomverse. Is that still a thing? Eh. Who cares.

BTW: Iíve taken a several month break from SAGA because itís SO good that I canít stand reading a little pinch at a time. Gonna wait for the next TPB to come out.
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Yeah Venomverse is still happening. Haven't read a page of it.
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Yeah Venomverse is still happening. Haven't read a page of it.

Neither have I. I am just not a Venom guy. Donít give a fuck about him/it/blah. Some of the character designs for Venomized Marvel heroes were cool though. Others were nah.
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see, I actually do "like" Venom, in that I think he (well, it) can be used rather interestingly. That said, I don't necessarily want Venom to be the star of a story. Rather I want Venom to a part of someone else's story.

Most recently the alien-goop took over MJ in Renew Your Vows and it was just a really interesting bit... that sadly was rushed through in just two issues where it could have been explored way better in like six. Oh well.
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see, I actually do "like" Venom, in that I think he (well, it) can be used rather interestingly. That said, I don't necessarily want Venom to be the star of a story. Rather I want Venom to a part of someone else's story.

Most recently the alien-goop took over MJ in Renew Your Vows and it was just a really interesting bit... that sadly was rushed through in just two issues where it could have been explored way better in like six. Oh well.

Yeah, I guess I like the symbiotes (whatís the main oneís name? Kvyntar? Some shit?) but I donít care for most of the Venom-centric stories. Like when Venom rebooted last year, it was all about this totally Ď90s d-bag thug with slicked back hair who was an Afghanistan vet who wanted to use the symbiotic to take over the stupid Spider-Man underworld (run by fucking Black Cat of all lame asses), and it was just meathead bullshit. The cool stuff was when the symbiote had conversations with the dude, and fought him and eventually brought him down.

Then Eddi Brock re-entered the picture and I was like, ďI officially do not give two fucks.Ē

I liked the Flash Thompson good-guy Venom who was with the Guardians of the Galaxy.

But... meh.
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I can’t belive they’re really making a Venom movie. Starting the guy who played Bane. Seriously, is Tom Hardy the only guy with muscles who can also act? I think this bullshit is beneath him. The movie is going to suck nut. I honestly can’t even begin to understand why an actor of such exquisite taste and ability would take such a horrendous role.

Let Dwayne Johnson be Venom. That sounds perfectly stupid!
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Just finished the first Vision book, NR.

I’m warming to the art, as I think it works for the story. It’s oddly reminiscent of certain illustrated children’s/young adult books in the ‘90s. Like... kinda dark and fucked up ones. I can’t remember any of the names of these books, but they involved scary stories and cautionary tales. Maybe it’s the same guy/gal drawing?

Anyway, I definitely don’t think this book would have worked with, like, Jim Lee art, or anything resembling the shiny, idealized “superhero” stuff from the big books.

I’m in awe of Tom King’s writing. Just in absolute awe.

Moving onto book 2 now.

HOW’S MISTER MIRACLE COMING ALONG?!?!?!?!
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been sick all weekend, so catching up on all your responses now haha.

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I can’t belive they’re really making a Venom movie. Starting the guy who played Bane. Seriously, is Tom Hardy the only guy with muscles who can also act? I think this bullshit is beneath him. The movie is going to suck nut. I honestly can’t even begin to understand why an actor of such exquisite taste and ability would take such a horrendous role.

Let Dwayne Johnson be Venom. That sounds perfectly stupid!

I mean, I'm gonna see it because it's interesting to me that it's even being made. But yeah the casting felt weird to me because well, he's already Bane. I just feel like putting him in another comic book movie as someone else I'm gonna be sitting there like "why is Bane Venom now?" instead of just getting lost in it.

The Rock would have been awesome actually. Haha. The dude is highly entertaining and kind of a perfect fit for such a character.

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Just finished the first Vision book, NR.

I’m warming to the art, as I think it works for the story. It’s oddly reminiscent of certain illustrated children’s/young adult books in the ‘90s. Like... kinda dark and fucked up ones. I can’t remember any of the names of these books, but they involved scary stories and cautionary tales. Maybe it’s the same guy/gal drawing?

Anyway, I definitely don’t think this book would have worked with, like, Jim Lee art, or anything resembling the shiny, idealized “superhero” stuff from the big books.

I’m in awe of Tom King’s writing. Just in absolute awe.

Moving onto book 2 now.

HOW’S MISTER MIRACLE COMING ALONG?!?!?!?!

hey glad you're enjoying it man. I still need to pick up Director's Cut #3 (which is issues 5 and 6) to finish the first book myself.

I had planned to get to the comic shop this weekend, but being sick knocked me on my ass. Trust, I have quite the lengthy shopping list at this point...


Anyway, I read a few things while lying around feeling like crap. I finally read through the Batman/Aliens collection that I have. (Also known simply as DC & Dark Horse Aliens). The book consists of: Batman/Aliens, Batman/Aliens II, Superman & Batman Vs Aliens & Predator, and WildCATS/Aliens.

Honestly, it was mostly bad. The best stuff was the straight up Batman/Aliens stuff. The second story was seemingly the better until the end when it gets so GD silly. Art was nice. The Supes/Bats story was crap, though. Boring writing, lifeless art.

Overall, not a book I'd recommend. And you know that I'm the type to say "sure, yeah, through a Xenomorph into anything and I'll be into it."
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hey dude, this article makes King's use of Kite Man actually pretty friggin interesting...

https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/19/1...ng-bill-finger
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https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/19/1...ng-bill-finger

Yeah, I *get* it dude. Itís smart, itís potent, itís just the right mix of kitschy and serious... but goddammit, I donít care! I wanted to see the Joker eat the Riddlerís family. I wanted some shit to Go. The Fuck. Down. I wanted a great crime saga to unfold, and ultimately I wanted Batman to be a supporting character in story about villains. I did not want a Charles the-fuck-Brown interlude and a bunch of other bullshit.

Iíve been sick too.
Really fucking sick actually.
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