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Old 03.15.2016, 12:12 PM   #101
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government is NOT business.
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Old 03.15.2016, 12:34 PM   #102
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Yeah, that drives me up the fucking wall. "If a company was run like Washington, it would be out of business!" Is that the sort of shit you're talking about?
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Old 03.15.2016, 01:49 PM   #103
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This Ohioian was an inch away from voting for Trump. Pussied out and went for Bern.



Originally, I was going to do the same thing, for the same strategic reasons. I figured Trump, barring assassination, would be the easiest Republican to beat in November, and that he would take down a lot of down ticket Republicans with him. But (1) the fuckhead is so evil I couldn't bring myself to do it, and (2) Even though I know a lot of it is media hype, and that the primaries bring out extremists, I'm starting to get concerned about the huge number of mindless sheep who have voted for the fuckhead.
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Old 03.15.2016, 01:59 PM   #104
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Because some naive part of me thinks Americans aren't stupid enough to give him the win in November, but they might to Kasich or Rubio. Of course I hold out the possibility that I'm totally wrong.
Good idea. So was it an open primary in Ohio?
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Old 03.15.2016, 03:11 PM   #105
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Yes. Plus it's winner takes all. Some crazy shit'll go down today.
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Old 03.15.2016, 03:19 PM   #106
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Yeah, that drives me up the fucking wall. "If a company was run like Washington, it would be out of business!" Is that the sort of shit you're talking about?

yes

Business is only one aspect of what needs to be considered in governing, especially when ti comes to foreign policy, but the business of the USA is business. Our government has been co-opted by corporations for decades and decades.
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Old 03.15.2016, 04:24 PM   #107
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what I'm hoping for is for Trump to get stiffed at the convention, go for a 3rd party run, split the asshole vote, and Demo for the easy win!
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Old 03.15.2016, 04:35 PM   #108
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what I'm hoping for is for Trump to get stiffed at the convention, go for a 3rd party run, split the asshole vote, and Demo for the easy win!

A vote for Hillary is a vote for Wall Street economics. Hillary is partly responsible for the criminal hell in Honduras. When she was Senator did she do anything for NY other than vote yes for every version of the Patriot Act?

It is bizarro world.
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Old 03.15.2016, 04:51 PM   #109
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This is not dissent, this is stalinism.

Darlin'
You don't have to call me
Stalin

Or even Mao Tse Tung
'Cause I'm far too young;
My rising
Sign is Capricorn; is that
Surprising?
You know that I was born
So very soft and easy going
— I make no trouble at all

I was listening
Yeah, I was listening to the Devil's Radio
I was listening
Yeah, I was listening to the Devil's Radio
And it went na na na na na na
I'm the Devil's radio

Evil
Its tentacles are bland
It's like a weevil
It burrows through the land
And everybody smiles
Everybody smiles
Michael — don't you KNOW someday a
Spike'll
Grow right through the woodwork
And come out through your palm

We was listening
We was listening to the Devil's Radio
We was listening
We was listening to the Devil's Radio
And it went na na na na na na
I'm the Devil's Radio

Sun sets on the Devil
Sun sets on the West
He's listening to the FM talk show
It's what he loves the best

Limbaugh
He was talking through a bimbo
But don't
Touch that dial
Or that hateful smile
Kate said
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This year
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We was listening
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I'm not the Devil's Radio
Na na na na na na
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A vote for Hillary is a vote for Wall Street economics. Hillary is partly responsible for the criminal hell in Honduras. When she was Senator did she do anything for NY other than vote yes for every version of the Patriot Act?

It is bizarro world.



I won't get into every vote she cast or every action she took. But to imply there's no difference between her and the average fuckhead GOP politician is quite a stretch. As I said at greater length upthread, she won't appoint Scalia types to the SCOTUS, attempt to trample women's reproductive rights, or tinker with the Affordable Care Act except to make improvements. Least of all evils is a very valid concept. You can waste your vote on Sanders if you like but I don't have any time for naive idealism. I live in the real world. If you really think Sanders has a chance in hell of being president, read about the trouncing of George McGovern in 1972. And Sanders is even further to the left than McGovern was. The stakes are too high, so HRC will have my vote come November.
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Yes, but...

Hillary says coal's got to go. Then, she's in front of an audience in Appalachia where many coal miners work. She backtracks like, I don't know, Romney or something.

Yes, but...

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she won't appoint Scalia types to the SCOTUS, attempt to trample women's reproductive rights, or tinker with the Affordable Care Act except to make improvements

Yes, but...

She's considering Sherod Brown as VP. Why? So the liberal dems will actually come out and vote for her. Fucking pathetic.

Yes, but...

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etc.
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She's considering Sherod Brown as VP. Why? So the liberal dems will actually come out and vote for her. Fucking pathetic.




Or she just wants to win Ohio--and having Brown on the ticket would certainly help.

I never said she was a saint, evollove. We'll just have to agree to disagree, as we often do. Maybe you can write a song for your band, something like "Drjohnrock Is Hillary's Pimp".
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Old 03.15.2016, 09:22 PM   #113
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trump just thanked his soninlaw who is a carpetbagger slumlord well loathed n the east village...


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We'll just have to agree to disagree

No, we're just not communicating well, which is my fault. I was just trying to illustrate the annoying back-and-forth that I assume goes on in most liberal democrats minds. For every reason to loath her for her wimpy, moderate and sometimes cowardly stances, there's this:

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she won't appoint Scalia types to the SCOTUS, attempt to trample women's reproductive rights, or tinker with the Affordable Care Act except to make improvements

It's an elegant list and I can't disagree. I'd vote for her in the general, but will you allow me to not enjoy doing so?
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Old 03.16.2016, 10:23 AM   #115
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No, we're just not communicating well, which is my fault. I was just trying to illustrate the annoying back-and-forth that I assume goes on in most liberal democrats minds. For every reason to loath her for her wimpy, moderate and sometimes cowardly stances, there's this:



It's an elegant list and I can't disagree. I'd vote for her in the general, but will you allow me to not enjoy doing so?

Of course I will grant you that indulgence. I might even join you in not enjoying myself in that endeavor
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What does Trump say about Apple? This article suggests the attack on Apple is an FBI plan to force the source code to be revealed to help out dictators around the world.

http://www.softwar.net/cryptowar2.html
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I've said for awhile that it's more or less a 1 party system in 2-party clothing. You're getting screwed one way or another. However, I'm also highly cynical and apathetic.
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What does Trump say about Apple?

Why in the world would it in any way matter?
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Trump Warns Of 'Riots' If He’s Not The GOP Nominee In A Contested Convention

 


 


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