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Old 06.03.2018, 07:15 PM   #4121
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Seeing how there isn’t much positivity shared in this thread, figured I would do my part and shed some light on the record setting low unemployment rate......it hit an 18 year low in May, coming in at 3.9%

UNDER 4%

No matter what set of numbers you choose to look at-study-dissect, 3.9.% matches April 2000 as the lowest unemployment rate since 1969.

ALMOST 50 YEARS

Pelosi Vomit: “Mays Job Report that shows strong employment numbers mean little to American Families hit with soaring cost under the Republican watch.”

DO WHAT???

In March 2017, Pelosi Vomit said, “The improving economy under Obama was due to his leadership and time in office......it was Obama’s economy.”

OK-SURE!

President Donald Trump had only been in office 30 something days.

Pelosi Vomit: “The firm foundation of growth created by the Obama Administration continues to deliver, but President Trump is taking dangerous steps that will hollow out our economy and weaken working families.”

SAY WHAT???

Black America Unemployment IS DOWN TO 5.9% and has NEVER BEEN THIS CLOSE to the overall unemployment rate of 3.9%. Usually, the Black America Unemployment rate is at least double that of the Overall Employment rate.

Truth is, President Donald’s Trumps Tax Cuts have disproportionally helped People of Color. So many times in the past have Republican and Democratic Administrations left out-forgotten the poor-People Of Color...... relegating them to a position needing a handout rather than a hand up!

President Donald Trump is taking this very seriously, keeping campaign promises made.

Democrats Are Scared
A) Pelosi Vomit is a Figurehead
B) Minority voting is changing (see Robert’s story above)

The DEMS know they will lose in 2018 and if things continue the way they are......

GUESS WHAT, ALL THE TAX CUTS HAVEN'T TAKEN EFFECT

......the DEMOCRATS will lose 2020 and end up the permanent minority party!

It’s going to be a great summer!!!


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Old 06.03.2018, 11:32 PM   #4122
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No no no!! Don't show the big picture!!! Look through a straw instead!!!
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“the nose causes the tail”

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“There was a man who sat each day looking out through a narrow vertical opening where a single board had been removed from a tall wooden fence. Each day a wild ass of the desert passed outside the fence and across the narrow opening—first the nose, then the head, the forelegs, the long brown back, the hindlegs, and lastly the tail. One day, the man leaped to his feet with the light of discovery in his eyes and he shouted for all who could hear him: “It is obvious! The nose causes the tail!”
― Frank Herbert, Heretics of Dune

...

anyway speaking of big picture, and investing in the future, china about to surpass the usa in science investment

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...1ee_story.html

and attracting people globally

e.g.


Like many ambitious young scientists, José Pastor-Pareja came to the United States to supercharge his career. At Yale University, he worked in cutting-edge laboratories, collaborated with experts in his field and published in prestigious journals.

But the allure of America soon began to wear off. The Spanish geneticist struggled to renew his visa and was even detained for two hours of questioning at a New York City airport after he returned from a trip abroad. In 2012, he made the surprising decision to leave his Ivy League research position and move to China.


...

china made him an offer paid him a massive bonus and is setting up his very own lab with machinery and a team of his choice.

but, you know, we’re giving shit to immigrants! and promoting coal mining.
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Old 06.04.2018, 09:21 AM   #4123
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But the allure of America soon began to wear off. The Spanish geneticist struggled to renew his visa and was even detained for two hours of questioning at a New York City airport after he returned from a trip abroad. In 2012, he made the surprising decision to leave his Ivy League research position and move to China.


but, you know, we’re giving shit to immigrants! and promoting coal mining.

Take a look at the year: 2012! That happened under Obama!
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Old 06.04.2018, 10:29 AM   #4124
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so, Commander Asshat is still in rumble mode with Chinese.....as a result of that news, I SOLD all my Chinese ADRs just now. Locked in many, many

 
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Old 06.04.2018, 10:32 AM   #4125
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Seriously guys, every step of the way Team Trump behaves like guilty people. Do innocent people, with nothing to hide, talk about pardoning themselves? Baffling.
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Seriously guys, every step of the way Team Trump behaves like guilty people. Do innocent people, with nothing to hide, talk about pardoning themselves? Baffling.


I pardoned myself for farting the other day.
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Take a look at the year: 2012! That happened under Obama!
yes becuz obama wrote every law and was the customs agent who stopped the guy

thanks obama!

therefore our science policy is now great #maga coal coal coal

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forgot to reply also to the trade & luxembourg business

why do we want to buy steel from luxembourg? because they have a comparative advantage in the steel business, and we want europe to buy, say, boeing airplanes.

of course right now they’re targetting motorcycles and whiskey instead.

but larry summers explains it much better of course

DONALD TRUMP’S TRADE POLICY VIOLATES EVERY RULE OF STRATEGY

summarizing, trump’s policy:
* lacks clear objectives
* unites adversaries and alienates allies
* uses self-damaging threats that lack leverage

“President Trump’s trade policies will raise the prices Americans pay for what they buy. They will reduce the competitiveness of the US economy. They will succeed where our traditional adversaries have failed in uniting much of the rest of the world in opposition to us. They will reduce our legitimacy and power by demonstrating our lack of competence. The sooner they are radically revised the better off the US and the rest of the world will be.”
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Forget about the trade policy please! We've got more important business to deal with now! Please Mr. Trump make them change their minds!!



 
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you know it’s not a witch hunt, right? 17 indictments and 5 guilty pleas is not nothing

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-n...tion-one-year/

and yeah it would be up to the spineless congress to impeach or not

ZERO GUILTY PLEADS for colluding with the Russians or rigging an election!!!

************************************************** *************

For those of you who live outside this country and for the rest who are American citizens and have evidently forgotten what you should’ve learned in Jr. High, let’s look at how our government works.

President Donald Trump: “i’ve done no wrongdoing, but I have the power to pardon myself if I so choose.”

President Donald Trump‘s lawyers notified Robert Muller......under the constitution, there is no way a sitting President could obstruct any investigation.

WHY?

President Of The United States
Executive Branch
Justice Department
FBI


The Justice Department appointed Robert Muller to head up the investigation. Because any sitting President is “Boss” over the Executive Branch, the President can shut down Justice Department & FBI investigations. President Donald Trump could fire Robert Muller today and there is nothing illegal or impeachable for doing so. This is also true if the President chose to cut off funding to an investigation. The Boss has final say!

Soooo......what does our Government have in place to investigate a sitting President?

***Legislative Branch***

The legislative branch has the power and authority to appoint their own special counsel. Under The Constitution, the President has NO AUTHORITY over this special counsel. If any President attempted to stop or influence the Legislative investigation......that would be an impeachable offense!

NEWSFLASH: The United States legislature HAS NOT appointed a special prosecutor. The legislature isn’t investigating ANYTHING!!!

Typically, when the FBI has, ZERO-Nothing-NADA evidence against you, they’re only option is to try and find where you may have somehow obstructed justice...... but as I explained above, the United States Constitution clearly states that a President cannot obstruct any investigation under the legislative branch.

Class is dismissed!
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Class is dismissed!
fortunately one’s education does not cease after elementary school

and so we can hear out specialists and the better educated to look at what happens beyond simplistic arguments about “the constitution”.

like, people who know and understand that obstruction of justice is spelled out in the US code.

here’s one example:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ustice/561935/

here are some excerpts worth highlighting

But the obstruction statutes are a tricky business. By their terms, they generally do not prohibit specific acts alone. They prohibit those acts when taken “corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication.” They prohibit those acts when someone engages in them “willfully” and with specific intent to tamper with the justice system. They use words like “corruptly persuade.” The same exact act can be an obstruction of justice or not depending entirely on what the perpetrator of that act intends.

[...]

But here’s where we come to what I think is one significant flaw in the president’s legal theory. Major criminal investigations seldom do take place entirely within the executive branch. Criminal investigations take place in a complex interaction between the Justice Department and grand juries, which are instrumentalities of the judiciary, and they end up in court in criminal proceedings. A facially valid action taken in the service of managing the executive branch, if taken with specific intent to commit a crime in order to influence a judicial proceeding, can theoretically violate statutes designed to protect the judicial function.

[...]


The president takes an oath of office in which he promises to “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States” and he is obliged by the Constitution to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” The law professors Eric Posner and Daniel Hemel suggest a legal test in which “a president commits obstruction of justice when he significantly interferes with an investigation, prosecution, or other law enforcement action to advance narrowly personal, pecuniary, or partisan interests.”



so, basically, while it’s true that the president has broad authority over the executive branch, it does not follow that the president is above the law and can run the government like a mafia. there’s a high burden of proof on the prosecution no doubt, and we still have not heard what the results of the investigation are. so we don’t know. and since we don’t know, we can’t claim that we do.
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ZERO GUILTY PLEADS for colluding with the Russians or rigging an election!!!

************************************************** *************

For those of you who live outside this country and for the rest who are American citizens and have evidently forgotten what you should’ve learned in Jr. High, let’s look at how our government works.

President Donald Trump: “i’ve done no wrongdoing, but I have the power to pardon myself if I so choose.”

President Donald Trump‘s lawyers notified Robert Muller......under the constitution, there is no way a sitting President could obstruct any investigation.

WHY?

President Of The United States
Executive Branch
Justice Department
FBI


The Justice Department appointed Robert Muller to head up the investigation. Because any sitting President is “Boss” over the Executive Branch, the President can shut down Justice Department & FBI investigations. President Donald Trump could fire Robert Muller today and there is nothing illegal or impeachable for doing so. This is also true if the President chose to cut off funding to an investigation. The Boss has final say!

Soooo......what does our Government have in place to investigate a sitting President?

***Legislative Branch***

The legislative branch has the power and authority to appoint their own special counsel. Under The Constitution, the President has NO AUTHORITY over this special counsel. If any President attempted to stop or influence the Legislative investigation......that would be an impeachable offense!

NEWSFLASH: The United States legislature HAS NOT appointed a special prosecutor. The legislature isn’t investigating ANYTHING!!!

Typically, when the FBI has, ZERO-Nothing-NADA evidence against you, they’re only option is to try and find where you may have somehow obstructed justice...... but as I explained above, the United States Constitution clearly states that a President cannot obstruct any investigation under the legislative branch.

Class is dismissed!

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ZERO GUILTY PLEADS for colluding with the Russians or rigging an election!!!

************************************************** *************

For those of you who live outside this country and for the rest who are American citizens and have evidently forgotten what you should’ve learned in Jr. High, let’s look at how our government works.

President Donald Trump: “i’ve done no wrongdoing, but I have the power to pardon myself if I so choose.”

President Donald Trump‘s lawyers notified Robert Muller......under the constitution, there is no way a sitting President could obstruct any investigation.

WHY?

President Of The United States
Executive Branch
Justice Department
FBI


The Justice Department appointed Robert Muller to head up the investigation. Because any sitting President is “Boss” over the Executive Branch, the President can shut down Justice Department & FBI investigations. President Donald Trump could fire Robert Muller today and there is nothing illegal or impeachable for doing so. This is also true if the President chose to cut off funding to an investigation. The Boss has final say!

Soooo......what does our Government have in place to investigate a sitting President?

***Legislative Branch***

The legislative branch has the power and authority to appoint their own special counsel. Under The Constitution, the President has NO AUTHORITY over this special counsel. If any President attempted to stop or influence the Legislative investigation......that would be an impeachable offense!

NEWSFLASH: The United States legislature HAS NOT appointed a special prosecutor. The legislature isn’t investigating ANYTHING!!!

Typically, when the FBI has, ZERO-Nothing-NADA evidence against you, they’re only option is to try and find where you may have somehow obstructed justice...... but as I explained above, the United States Constitution clearly states that a President cannot obstruct any investigation under the legislative branch.

Class is dismissed!


Trump's tweets work.
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fortunately one’s education does not cease after elementary school

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so, basically, while it’s true that the president has broad authority over the executive branch, it does not follow that the president is above the law and can run the government like a mafia. there’s a high burden of proof on the prosecution no doubt, and we still have not heard what the results of the investigation are. so we don’t know. and since we don’t know, we can’t claim that we do.


Thank you for restating this yet again. In this thread we will continue to go in circles.
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this one was in this morning’s wsj email. this is not a partisan post. i just enjoy looking at trends.

The Breakfast Briefing

The good news for home builders and house hunters is that lumber prices have sold off since hitting an all-time high in mid-May. The bad news: wood prices are still up 66% over the past year, adding thousands of dollars to the cost of each new house.

The historic run-up in lumber prices--attributable to a trade dispute with Canada, wildfires and limited rail capacity--comes as U.S. home builders are already struggling to meet demand amid shortages in buildable lots and labor.

Lumber futures at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange closed at $586.80 per 1,000 board feet on Monday, down 8.2% from the all-time high of $639 reached May 17 but still sky high in a market in which prices have only occasionally eclipsed $400 over the last three decades.

“We’ve never seen anything like this,” said Deb Maples, risk management consultant at futures brokerage INTL FCStone Financial Inc. “It’s been unprecedented.”

For a generation setting off to start families in the suburbs, pricier construction materials are another hurdle to homeownership, on top of rising borrowing costs and competition from institutional investors, who are gobbling up homes to turn into rentals in some of the country's hottest markets.

Lately there have been signs that the housing market is slowing as prices push beyond the reach of some buyers. Housing starts, purchases of newly built single-family homes and residential building permits, a sign of how much construction is in the pipeline, each declined in April, according to the Commerce Department.

Surging softwood prices aren’t entirely responsible, of course, but they offer a glimpse into how the Trump administration’s protectionist trade stance might ripple through the U.S. economy as tariffs are imposed on other raw materials, such as steel and aluminum.

The housing recovery was already pushing lumber prices higher last year when forest fires tore through western Canada, where loggers harvest about a third of the lumber consumed in the U.S. The blazes exacerbated shortages following wood-boring beetle infestations that wiped out millions of acres of North American timber.

Then, later in the year, the U.S. levied tariffs on Canadian lumber of around 20%. Without enough domestic lumber to meet demand, buyers have mostly had to pay up.

“Lumber shipments from Canada to the U.S. are higher than ever, but the price of lumber went up in excess of the duty,” Jean-Jacques Ruest, interim chief executive of Canadian National Railway Co., told investors at a conference last week. “So what they did is create an inflation and there was no impact in the trade because housing starts are strong.”
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Sometimes I swear you're just trolling.

I call it......TRUTHING!

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I can't wait to bump this in November. (But, I accept I may do a face-palm image instead.)

Skuj - if I’m mistaken about one of my predictions or thoughts about something, I’ll happily admit it......zero embarrassment here
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Well, nothing surprises me anymore. Trump may be POTUS for 8 fucking years.
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Now let us say, and, indeed, why not, that everything you fear might happen starts to really happen. In an obviously rigged election, Democrats overwhelmingly win back the House and the Senate, they start impeachment proceedings, and they start to undo all the great and wonderful things that Donald Trump did. They restore the individual mandate and expand the catastrophe known as Obamacare. They halt construction on the Wall. They bring back DACA and targeted enforcement of immigration laws. It's a damn nightmare.

But then shit gets even worse. Rather than face impeachment and removal from office, as well as possible arrest, Donald Trump escapes with his family to Russia, where they are welcomed by Vladimir Putin, who you know is a great leader because Trump told you he is. Mike Pence hightails it to Israel. And, before you know it, Nancy motherfuckin' Pelosi is the Commander-in-Chief.

And you know what happens next. She bans all images of Donald Trump, arresting anyone who dares to support him. She fills her cabinet with blacks and Hispanics, lots of women, queers galore, even a transgender Secretary of Defense. She starts to outlaw any Christian church that doesn't preach love and inclusiveness but she lets the Muslims slide. She demands that everyone takes a knee during the National Anthem. She opens the borders and tells MS-13 they can cut any Trump-lover to tiny pieces. They like to use knives, you know, to make it last longer. And Bernie Sanders runs Congress, pushing Pelosi to turn the nation into a socialist hellscape, where the government decides who lives and who dies for the greater good.

And, finally, worst of all, the final straw, Nancy Pelosi comes after your guns. Oh, sure, the NRA tries to raise an army to fight back, but even AR-15s and small rocket launchers are no match for drones with Hellfire missiles.

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It will be Warren.

Pocahontas* will have her revenge.

(*It pained me to type what Trump freely spews. I feel dirty now.)
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