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Old 03.06.2018, 10:03 AM   #3741
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the reindustrialization needs to go forward not backwards

renewable energies not coal mining

healthcare, biotech, airspace, telecommunications, electric/self-driving/energy efficient automotive, software development, advanced chemical/materials, robotics, machine tools, military, all kinds of r&d & IP creation, etc.

just the other day there was a government report that shows that outdoor recreation is a bigger sector of the economy than mining and fossil fuel extracton.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...ry-finds-its-/

but trumpo wants to wreck the parks and spill oil everywhere. lol!

 


so fucking backwards. the gerontocracy needs to go. please go.

these tariffs are just pandering to the gullible. again.
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Old 03.06.2018, 10:28 AM   #3742
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just when you think the righties can go no lower, they start a circle jerk at low tide on a polluted river delta with Roy Moore, Bill O'Reilly, Rush and Wayne LaPierre!

 
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Old 03.06.2018, 10:34 AM   #3743
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Old 03.06.2018, 07:48 PM   #3744
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Old 03.07.2018, 11:59 PM   #3745
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OK, I can't be the only one who sees the irony in someone getting a gag order against a porn actress, can I...?
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Old 03.08.2018, 02:29 PM   #3746
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OK, I can't be the only one who sees the irony in someone getting a gag order against a porn actress, can I...?
Probably the only way he could make her gag.
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Be chill the next two months. We got four years of gnashing teeth and pulling hair.

But it's worse than you think. Roger "Satan Takes Lessons from Me" Stone has the president's ear. Ben Carson should have vanished, but now he might end up with a cabinet position. I could go on, but what's the point?

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Has anyone re-read through this entire thread yet? I bet we all look stupid at some point.

I'm having perverse interest in reading Nov 2016 comments.

Trumpism actually turned out to be worse than I thought it could be. I actually believed that saner heads around him could educate him or reign him in. He'll never change, or grow into the job.

My biggest concern is....WTF are Dems doing? I see weak/tepid responses to all the Trumpy things. Where are they? Who are they?
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Future: It's complicated now, because it's primary season. There are some super dope candidates and some lame middle-of-the-road wienies. Wait to see how the primaries unfold.

Present: Only so much a minority party can do. Still, there are calls for impeachment now and then. Some blistering tweets. I dunno. What are you looking for?

And it's always worth mentioning that you yourself are permitted to do any number of things. Hold a rally. Write a letter. Run for office.
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And it's always worth mentioning that you yourself are permitted to do any number of things. Hold a rally. Write a letter. Run for office.
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lol

Then what's a Canadian complaining about?

New advice: Chill, enjoy a glass of maple syrup, and spank it to photos of Trudeau. This'll all blow over.
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What's the difference between a chick pea and a garbanzo bean?

Trump never had a garbanzo bean on him.
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lol

Then what's a Canadian complaining about?

New advice: Chill, enjoy a glass of maple syrup, and spank it to photos of Trudeau. This'll all blow over.

I wish I could share your optimism. I fear much unalterable damage has been done to institutions, the environment, and education, in the USA and in the world, because Donald Fucking Trump is POTUS.

The seemingly dwindling liberal world is horrified by Trump's Presidency, not just those in the USA. We are all affected by it.

Dems have really got to get their shit together. It's 20 fucking 18. Should they still be camping out in the woods, holding hands and singing kumbaya?
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Should they still be camping out in the woods, holding hands and singing kumbaya?
they’re sitting in front of the tv chuckling at john oliver making aesthetic criticisms which ultimately are gestures that reinforce their impotence

seriously, i fucking hate john oliver. all he does it preach to the choir.

okay, jon stewart and colbert did that too first.

it was a nice escape valve but it was too much an escape valve. “i can inhabit this reality, so why should i bother with the one i dislike.” “my pain doesn’t need to hurt so much, i can laugh at it.” etc.

it also did help with the polarization and divison of the country. as it bred self-righteousness.

but ok, jokes help sometimes.

colbert’s sister ran in north carolina and lost though.

BUT ANYWAY

no room for torches and pitchforks here. the republicans have all the guns.

don’t know what to tell you. honest. ebolo is more informed as he’s actively organizing.
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in other news, this is what eugene robinson has to say about republican hipocrisy in the face of the stormy daniels revelations

Republicans who regarded Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky as the end of civilization as we know it are serenely untroubled. Evangelical Christians who rail against sin and cloak themselves in piety offer nothing but a worldly, almost Gallic shrug. Daniels has taught us much about their character and morals, too.


YES.
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Old 03.09.2018, 08:13 AM   #3755
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"Happened years ago. He is a new man. Forgiveness is Christlike. Let he who is without sin...etc."

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It was easy to "resist" when T's administration started. Remember when we all thought he'd be gone the next day? The next week? Okay, next month. Okay, but he'll never make it past 2017...

It wears one down. Defeat and resignation set in.

But I'm still convinced 2018 will be a turning point. Or a returning point.

"Oh, we can actually vote this year!"

33 senate races
39 gubernatorial races
435 congressional races!!!!!!

And don't believe anyone who tells you how any of these will turn out in November.
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I've been reading parts of this thread. It's like other Trump threads on other music forums - mostly antiTrump, but a few Trumpists (eg tesla69? I think?), and we spend plenty of time standing across from each other shouting and giving the middle finger. But there's some good debate too. If we can reach for what we have in common I think that is noble.

I think tesla is very happy that the tax cuts give him more of his money. Understandable. How much more are the millionaires getting? Is that fair? Is the debt at 22T now?

Big news today seems to be meeting with KimJongUn. I don't know if this is good news or bad news.
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get your tax cut today, watch the country’s infrastructure and social safety net crumble tomorrow

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lol the meeting of the egomaniacs
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Seriously, doesn't an actual face to face give Kim legitimacy that he craves? Does anyone seriously think they will halt the nuke program for any reason? They are dangling that to get Trump to the table, surely? Where the fuck is Tillerson on all this?
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Seriously, doesn't an actual face to face give Kim legitimacy that he craves? Does anyone seriously think they will halt the nuke program for any reason? They are dangling that to get Trump to the table, surely? Where the fuck is Tillerson on all this?

he’s a carnival barker and a huckster and i don’t trust him one iota

this does have every appearance of a diplomatic coup though. sure thing. the dealmaker, whatever. it’s how he operates. grandiose gestures and gilded furniture and all eyes on him.

ask me again after they meet (or not). he might have forgotten about this by may, and have us looking at another distraction.

this guys is a serial bankrupt. great announcements, terrible finishes, stiffs everyone and comes up smelling of roses.

we’ll see. you gotta look past the bamboozling.
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"Happened years ago. He is a new man. Forgiveness is Christlike. Let he who is without sin...etc."

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It was easy to "resist" when T's administration started. Remember when we all thought he'd be gone the next day? The next week? Okay, next month. Okay, but he'll never make it past 2017...

It wears one down. Defeat and resignation set in.

But I'm still convinced 2018 will be a turning point. Or a returning point.

"Oh, we can actually vote this year!"

33 senate races
39 gubernatorial races
435 congressional races!!!!!!

And don't believe anyone who tells you how any of these will turn out in November.

well put, all of that
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