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Old 10.17.2017, 04:47 PM   #3341
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..when I go to investigate further I bump into wild conspiracy theories or sometimes just really shoddy journalism. Then I give up. It's frustrating actually.

Absolutely I agree with you. But its not going to be easy, right? Its fucking dangerous. like murdering Daphne Caruana Galizia in Malta with a car bomb yesterday dangerous! And even when the information is available, no one pays attention to it e.g., the material exposing the vaccine system corruption at the CDC has been available for years but no one will touch it. Julian Assange has been in under diplomatic siege for years now - but wikileaks is rich on btc thanks to being forced out of the financial system, even if I won't touch btc I do love the irony!

Wikileaks and the cashless society - I gotta post on the cashless thread about this...
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Old 10.21.2017, 11:42 AM   #3342
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WASHINGTON — President Trump has decided to release a final batch of thousands of classified government documents related to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Mr. Trump announced in a tweet on Saturday morning.
“Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter.
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Old 10.21.2017, 12:39 PM   #3343
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WASHINGTON — President Trump has decided to release a final batch of thousands of classified government documents related to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Mr. Trump announced in a tweet on Saturday morning.
“Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter.

You do realise that there'll be no new information, right? And any chance of their being will be redacted or blacked out.

And how is it real leadership? He's literally having to do nothing as it was already set to be released anyway.
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Old 10.21.2017, 01:08 PM   #3344
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You do realise that there'll be no new information, right? And any chance of their being will be redacted or blacked out.

And how is it real leadership? He's literally having to do nothing as it was already set to be released anyway.
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Old 10.23.2017, 06:10 AM   #3345
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You do realise that there'll be no new information, right? And any chance of their being will be redacted or blacked out.

That's what They keep saying, so it must be true! Nothing to see here, move along. I think they need to make some room for the Paddock files.
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Old 10.23.2017, 06:19 AM   #3346
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That's what They keep saying, so it must be true!

Ok, what do you honestly and realistically think there'll be in there that we didn't know already?
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Ok, what do you honestly and realistically think there'll be in there that we didn't know already?
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Old 10.23.2017, 04:43 PM   #3349
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Ok, what do you honestly and realistically think there'll be in there that we didn't know already?

I honestly have no idea - its probably volumes of those old typewritten memos you see reproduced in history books, with ten pages of cc's; memos describing the previous memos that described the previous memos...you know, typical government work! Kind of like reading that chapter in the Bible that goes on about begating for 100 pages...

Oligarch voice Washington Post says: "...many of them concern Oswald’s six-day trip to Mexico City in September 1963" "There might be stuff on why we were interested in the Cuban consulate, how we surveilled the consulate, how we did our audio work, and how did we recruit spies there? We might understand much better why they were watching Oswald.”

And the Post goes on to mention "Oswald didn’t come out of nowhere. [James] Angelton [the hardcore anticommunist "CIA" superspy] was targeting him for intelligence purposes at the Cuban consulate in Mexico City.”"

Was Angelton running Oswald as the patsy and this is what is covered up?

I thought Max Allan Collins did a great job of putting the Chicago test run (http://abc7chicago.com/archive/9315215/) into a tight storyline for his Nathan Hale character in Target Lancer.
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from Driftglass again. David Brooks and centrism:

This, according to Mr. Brooks, we should do because otherwise we will all become terrible people:
"You engage fanaticism with love, first, for your own sake. If you succumb to the natural temptation to greet this anger with your own anger, you’ll just spend your days consumed by bitterness and revenge. You’ll be a worse person in all ways."


In Mr. Brooks' telling of history, fascism was defeated with hugs, and the Confederacy was destroyed with trust falls. Because Mr. Brooks -- whose only academic credential in the undergraduate degree in history he scammed from one of America's most prestigious universities -- is once again just full of happy horseshit about how he pretends the world works, and how he wishes history were unfolding.
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Hey Rob - I'm sure you've heard about Whitefish...

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ontract-stinks

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WASHINGTON — President Trump has decided to release a final batch of thousands of classified government documents related to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Mr. Trump announced in a tweet on Saturday morning.
“Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter.

Trump delays release of hundreds of remaining JFK assassination documents, bowing to national security concerns

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Aye, and there are papers coming out saying "the Jews" (ALL OF THEM) did it, few pages later someone's saying the communists did it, next it was LBJ then after that it's the Vietnamese as revenge for the killing of the president of South Vietnam Diem and his brother.

Is there interesting stuff there? Sure. But there really is nothing concrete yet, and certainly nothing solidly point the finger at anyone else. If anything, the whole thing is a mess and just adds further to the confusion and noise of it all. It's gonna take a long time to sift through it all and actually try to make some sense of it.

Confirmation bias is the one thing blinding you here.
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well why not have some bias?

The entire force of the Black Iron State is dedicated to NOTconfirming what happened that fateful day in Dallas...

and Trump has okayed the release of the remainder of the files...maybe Monday we'll see them.
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well why not have some bias?

The entire force of the Black Iron State is dedicated to NOTconfirming what happened that fateful day in Dallas...

and Trump has okayed the release of the remainder of the files...maybe Monday we'll see them.

And there you have the problem with conspiracy theories. You're only gonna see what you want to see. You can't disagree with the fact that so much information has come out, and with so much conflicting reports that it's gonna be hard to make sense of it all.
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Manafort. I coulda told them that a year + ago.His list of clients reads like a who's who of brutality, including Jonas Savimbi, Ferdinand Marcos, the ISI (Taliban), Yanucovich. His wikipedia page is a very interesting read, unsecured loans on properties thru Trump shill bankers, HUD housing scandal in Jersey with the associated Tony Soprano connection. Damn, a crook and a traitor.

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