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Old 11.11.2015, 02:09 AM   #261
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saw them twice a couple of weeks ago, and to my surprise really enjoyed it. went to their headline show supported by oren ambarchi, who frankly shat on them as did htrk who I saw beforehand, as I can't help but see their new groove-based songs (a little god in my hands et al) as pandering and dull, whereas those billowing drones they played were utterly incredible, reminded me more of the 2011/2013 tours. the second set the next day was a condensed festival set and they essentially untethered the whole thing from rhythm and it was just excellent. just a little boy is really the only taker I have from to be kind and live it's enormous. new stuff also sounding solid, although it's likely going to be the same problem I had with the last two records, that being gira's proclivity to play the best stuff live and then fill out the overlong records with really slight songs.

Eh? Personally I cannot think of a wasted moment on either of Seer or To Be Kind, but My Father Etc was somewaht tentative. I may have said this a dozen times here, but Look At Me Go completes My Father Etc. Gira's decision to add this later on was both brilliant and overdue. ie He must have known that My Father Etc was very incomplete.
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Old 11.11.2015, 03:55 PM   #262
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Eh? Personally I cannot think of a wasted moment on either of Seer or To Be Kind, but My Father Etc was somewaht tentative. I may have said this a dozen times here, but Look At Me Go completes My Father Etc. Gira's decision to add this later on was both brilliant and overdue. ie He must have known that My Father Etc was very incomplete.
I agree completely there is no filler and indeed these two are realistically my favorite Swans records, the sound is so much more "mature"
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I think My Father Will Guide me up a rope... is a brilliant fucking album. The ranks above To Be Kind for me. Not above the Seer, but that's because the Seer is the real pinnacle of the trilogy. If this incarnation of Swans was to be compared to Chris Nolan's Dark Knight Saga, the Seer would be Fhe Dark Knight.

I've never thought of My Father... as incomplete. Experimental, unprecedented, yeah. At the time of its release, maybe even a little hard to digest or recognize as "proper" Swans. But that's because it was the start of a new era. It was a beautiful risk that worked out perfectly, and helped them home in on the elements that defined their two most celebrated albums to date.

To Be Kind feels a little bit like it could have used some editing. I was moonlighting in a record store when that album came out, and I heard lifelong fans cracking jokes about "Bring the Sun." Great record, but it could have been better.
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Oh Man I love To Be Kind the most. It seems to "flow" better than Seer for me. Disc 2 of Seer always seemed a little weird for me in terms of "flow", but I dunno...It took me several spins of Bring The Sun - Toussaint to "get" it. I think it is brilliant, and rather unusual for Swans.
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I've been immersed in the Filth 3CD for the last month or so. I may have said this before, but the biggest surprise for me is how similar it is to recent output. I know that sounds crazy, because there are many obvious differences, but the "Swans Vibe" that I've come to know with Seer/TBK is very present right out of the gate. I'm not explaining this very well.
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I've been immersed in the Filth 3CD for the last month or so. I may have said this before, but the biggest surprise for me is how similar it is to recent output. I know that sounds crazy, because there are many obvious differences, but the "Swans Vibe" that I've come to know with Seer/TBK is very present right out of the gate. I'm not explaining this very well.

No, I get it. And yeah, I think you have mentioned this before.

And it makes me wonder: why exactly do you think it "sounds crazy" to say that there are similarities. I mean, yes, you're dealing with two very different time periods, "eras," lineups of the band, but it's still Swans.

I know a lot is made of the band's various styles and approaches, but the same themes have always been prevalent in their music. It's always been a collage of post-punk, noise, drone, industrial, dark Americana & southern gothic, apocalyptic & psychedelic folk, ambience and sludge.

It's no more crazy than finding parallels between Nurse and Daydream Nation, in my opinion.

Btw: where are you with your collection at this point? Have you investigated Soundtracks for the Blind? Burning World? Love of Life? Just curious, because I know you were just starting to venture out into pre-2010's stuff when you went awol.
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No, I get it. And yeah, I think you have mentioned this before.

And it makes me wonder: why exactly do you think it "sounds crazy" to say that there are similarities. I mean, yes, you're dealing with two very different time periods, "eras," lineups of the band, but it's still Swans.

I know a lot is made of the band's various styles and approaches, but the same themes have always been prevalent in their music. It's always been a collage of post-punk, noise, drone, industrial, dark Americana & southern gothic, apocalyptic & psychedelic folk, ambience and sludge.

It's no more crazy than finding parallels between Nurse and Daydream Nation, in my opinion.

Btw: where are you with your collection at this point? Have you investigated Soundtracks for the Blind? Burning World? Love of Life? Just curious, because I know you were just starting to venture out into pre-2010's stuff when you went awol.

Well, we are talking about a 30 year span.....more like comparing The Eternal and Confusion Is Sex.....which would have many parallels haha. I was surprised though because I keep reading about how utterly different the 2010s stuff is from early Swans, and my first thought upon spinning Filth was "no....that's fucking Gira yesterday isn't it?"

I have played Soundtracks many many times and I fucking adore it. Took me a while to get my head wrapped around it. Seemed very "everything plus the kitchen sink" at first, but now I hear it as a seamless epic work. Hey....isn't Animus and The Sound two parts of the same epic song? What a centerpiece, separated by a disc change and a short Jarboe piece. I thought that was particularly brilliant.

So, other than all the 2010s stuff, I got Soundtracks and Filth 3CD to contend with. I'm definitely going to keep adding to my Swans collection.....they are my favourite fucking band haha......but there is so much to digest with what I already have. No rush.
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Gonna get this real soon. These 2 albums have thematically similar artwork, were released close together, and are bunched into this 3CD. Are they 2 parts of a single work?http://younggodrecords.com/collectio...et-3cd-release
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Fuck it, I just ordered the 3CD White Light....Love Of Life, and this:http://younggodrecords.com/collectio...eed-holy-money
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Can't stop playing the 3CD White Light.....Love Of Life. At first it really threw me how "song" oriented this is, and how "sweet" it all sounds. A lot of this even reminds me of late 80s / early 90s REM. Blind is stuck in my brain. White Light....is fantastic really, it flows so beautifully. I thought I'd always be digging Swans for their epicness and brutality, but here is a side of them that is totally unexpected and completely lovely. Floored again.
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I wonder if the current "troubles" will delay this next album/tour. TBK was out in May 2014, but details were announced in Jan 2014.
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I wonder if the current "troubles" will delay this next album/tour. TBK was out in May 2014, but details were announced in Jan 2014.

Michael's playing some solo shows (with Thurston Moore, actually) that don't seem to have been interrupted by whats going on. (Shrug)
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Michael's playing some solo shows (with Thurston Moore, actually) that don't seem to have been interrupted by whats going on. (Shrug)

All of the Australian shows have been cancelled but the London show is still on I think, I have a ticket so I'll let you know!
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All of the Australian shows have been cancelled but the London show is still on I think, I have a ticket so I'll let you know!

Yeah, please do. Not that I'm going to be in Australia or England or Amsterdan any time soon myself, but I want to know the extent that his activity on tour and in the studio may be affected by what's going on.

I see the Australia shows are cancelled now. That's a bummer.
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