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Originally Posted by Severian
Ok, so Jesse was the story of a conscience developing. Walt was the story of a conscience dying. Mike was the story of stone-cold Darwinian survivalism — pragmatic, order applied to the bad, but ultimately bad on the outside, good on the inside.

Not sure how you can think Jesse is a bad guy and Mike is a good guy.

We need one of those dumb meme morality maps that Game of Thrones fans use. Haha
is he a conscience developing? i don’t know. he was always a nice guy, if you remember he supposedly took care of his aunt. his parents are a bit sociopathic i think. you ever read “people of the lie”? they remind me of that. he’s nice to his little brother.

but at the same time he’s always been corrupt. he’s a degenerate addict, he’s in a criminal enterprise way before walter shows up, then he has a number of deaths on him. yes, he has limits, and those limits get tested, but he’s no saint. and when he fucks up he runs away to having a constant party which numbs him. that’s not responsible. when he goes to rehab he “accepts himself” as “the bad guy” and games the meetings to sell meth. he’s also responsible for his girlfriend dying—he gets her off recovery, they blackmail walt together, etc.

like everyone else he’s corrupt and like everyone else he has limits, but he’s just weaker (and dumber) than the rest. ok he’s not completely dumb, he has some good ideas, but lacks discipline, consistency, good sense, etc. he fucks up often and endangers everyone.

sure he was trying to quit the business but what was he gonna do with his millions? snort them...? he ends up caged instead. sure, walt is the worst piece of shit at that point, so jesse only looks good by comparison.

jesse is chaotic evil — and weak

mike is lawful neutral — and strong

im classifying him as neutral because all he’s trying to do is look after his grandaughter while keeping casualties low. he’s trustworthy, honorable, loyal, does not sell out his guys to save money....so the good and the evil neutralize each other, lol.

if he’s neutral where everyone else is evil he’s therefore the relative good guy
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