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Old 04.14.2006, 07:12 PM   #21
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Pixies-Doolittle
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Old 04.14.2006, 07:35 PM   #22
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Atleast 2 albums missing from that list: Bauhaus: In the Flat Field, and Happy Go Licky Will Play
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albums that i think are right (if a little low):
minor threat - out of step (not really an album but...)
rites of spring
duran duran - rio (deserves the low place)
meat puppets II
x - los angeles
jane's addiction - nothing's shocking
boredoms - soul discharge
spacemen 3 - playing with fire
the police - ghost in the machine
paul simon - graceland
hüsker dü - new day rising
the smiths - strangeways here we come
meat puppets - up the sun
the replacements - pleased to meet me
the pogues - rum, sodomy and the lash
television personalities - and don't the kids just love it
nurse with wound - homopoty to marie
guns n' roses - appetite for destruction
king crimson - discipline
big black - songs about fucking
eric b & rakim - paid in full
mission of burma - vs
naked city s/t (it's not john zorn solo!!!!)
cowboy junkies - the trinity sessions
dinosaur jr - you're living all over me
the stone roses s/t
the cure - disintegration
the replacements - tim
violent femmes s/t
nwa - straight outta compton
the fall - hex enduction hour
hüsker dü - zen arcade
sonic youth - evol
the replacements - let it be
black flag - damaged
gang of four - solid gold
the jesus and mary chain - psychocandy
my bloody valentine - isn't anything
public image limited - metal box/second edition
de la soul - 3 feet high and rising
minutemen - double nickels on the dime
galaxie 500 - on fire
sonic youth - sister
the fall - this nation's saving grace
tom waits - swordfishtrombones
joy division - closer
public enemy - it takes a nation...
xtc - skylarking
pixies - surfer rosa
the smiths - the queen is dead
pixies - doolittle
beastie boys - paul's boutique
talking heads - remain in light
sonic youth - daydream nation


albums i'm not sure because i haven't heard them:
gang of four - songs of the free
cocteau twins - treasure
mekons - the mekons rock n' roll
kate bush - hounds of love (i hear it's amazing, so good for them)
esg - come away with esg
talk talk - the colour of spring
manuel götschiing - e2-e4
the dbs - stands for decibels
the mekons - fear and whiskey
coil - horse retorvator
the feelies - crazy rhythms
The dukes of stratosphere - psonic psunspots
the soft boys - underwater moonlight
young marble giants - colossal youth (they pretty much put everything on rough trade in the 80's, right?)
leonard cohen - i'm your man
xtc - english settlement
talk talk - spirit of eden
brian eno and david byrne - my life in the bush of ghosts (i really want to listen to it!!)
this heat - deceit
tom waits - rain dogs

albums that suck and shouldn't be there:
david bowie - scary monsters
prince - dirty mind
too many cocteau twins albums
the fall - perverted by language (ok, it doesn't suck but there are more deserving albums)
they might be giants - lincoln (in my opinion, i haven't heard a single tmbg records i really like without getting tired after 5 seconds)
boogie down productions - criminally minded (deserves to be there but it's way too up in the list)
why two mekons albums?
too many meat puppet albums
elvis costello - trust
talking heads - stop making sense (that's cheating)
r.e.m. - reckoning
bruce springsteen - nebraska
elvis costello - imperial bedroom
pixies - come on pilgrim (should've put just one, two pixies albums tops)
the police - synchronicity (good, but should have just stayed with ghost...)
mission of burma - signals, calls and marches (it's just an ep)
spacemen 3 - the perfect prescription (good album but couldn't you put a loop album instead?)
r.e.m. - document
prince - sign o' the times
kraftwerk - computer world
run dmc - raising hell (ok, historical document, but not that great)
beastie boys - license to ill (funny but not the best of the 80's)
it would be fair if they had one replacements album
u2 - the joshua tree (even if it's their least crappy album, it's still some of the worst music ever)
new order - power corruption and lies (i personally have never gotten so much into new order, maybe they deserve the place since they are important)
michael jackson - thriller
elvis costello - get happy
prince - purple rain
r.e.m. - murmur

albums they forgot because they were too busy cramming shit like prince, elvis costello and r.e.m. into their list:

sonic youth - confusion is sex
black sabbath - heaven and hell and/or mob rules and/or born again
adolescents s/t
ozzy osbourne - diary of a madman
the gun club - fire of love
red cross (redd kross) - born innocent
iron maiden - either killers or the number of the beast or powerslave
venom - welcome to hell and/or black metal
flipper - album: generic flipper
the birthday party - junkyard
dead kennedys - at least fresh fruit for rotten vegetables
social distortion - mommy's little monster
bad brains s/t
metallica - at least master of puppets
slayer - at least reign in blood
corrosion of conformity - eye for an eye
d.r.i. - dealing with it or dirty rotten lp
misfits - walk among us
at least one einstürzende neubauten album
celtic frost - to mega therion
die kreuzen s/t
sodom - persecution mania
agnostic front - victim in pain
sonny sharrock - guitar
any pussy galore
voivod - rrroooaaarrr or killing technology
dark angel - darkness descends
megadeth - peace sells...
anthrax - among the living
descendents - milo goes to college
napalm death - scum
any loop album
butthole surfers - locust abortion technician
rapeman - two nuns and a pack of mule
morbid angel - altars of madness
mudhoney - superfuzz bigmuff (they put stuff that's not full lenght albums)
laughing hyenas - you can't pray a lie
last exit
godflesh - streetcleaner
cro-mags - age of quarrel
tsol - dance with me
christian death - only theater of pain
dna
teenage jesus and the jerks
glenn branca
mars
circle jerks - group sex
the wipers - is this real?
a bauhaus album
swans - children of god
the cramps - songs the lord taught us or psychedelic jungle or other
shonen knife - burning farm
beat happening s/t

among many others i'm surely forgetting
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Yeah, either Nick Cave or the Birthday Party definitely should have made it. Swans is another major miss. Nice to see Leonard Cohen mentioned though. And obviously Pitchfork is a little oblivious when it comes to metal. Nebraska doesn't suck.
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everyneurotic, i'll do a sandwich with items i disagree with you on as the bread and items i agree with you on as the meat. they might be giants is a band that either makes sense to you or not. if you don't like it, understandable, but they're deffinetly well loved enough by a very dedicated cult following to deserve to be on the list. i agree that the bad brains not being on is a god damn travesty. nebraska is one of the boss's finest. if you're gonna give any respect to any bruce springsteen album ever, it should be to this one and he is deffinetly an artist deserving of some r e s p e c t
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albums that i think are right (if a little low):
minor threat - out of step (not really an album but...)
rites of spring
duran duran - rio (deserves the low place)
meat puppets II
x - los angeles
jane's addiction - nothing's shocking
boredoms - soul discharge
spacemen 3 - playing with fire
the police - ghost in the machine
paul simon - graceland
hüsker dü - new day rising
the smiths - strangeways here we come
meat puppets - up the sun
the replacements - pleased to meet me
the pogues - rum, sodomy and the lash
television personalities - and don't the kids just love it
nurse with wound - homopoty to marie
guns n' roses - appetite for destruction
king crimson - discipline
big black - songs about fucking
eric b & rakim - paid in full
mission of burma - vs
naked city s/t (it's not john zorn solo!!!!)
cowboy junkies - the trinity sessions
dinosaur jr - you're living all over me
the stone roses s/t
the cure - disintegration
the replacements - tim
violent femmes s/t
nwa - straight outta compton
the fall - hex enduction hour
hüsker dü - zen arcade
sonic youth - evol
the replacements - let it be
black flag - damaged
gang of four - solid gold
the jesus and mary chain - psychocandy
my bloody valentine - isn't anything
public image limited - metal box/second edition
de la soul - 3 feet high and rising
minutemen - double nickels on the dime
galaxie 500 - on fire
sonic youth - sister
the fall - this nation's saving grace
tom waits - swordfishtrombones
joy division - closer
public enemy - it takes a nation...
xtc - skylarking
pixies - surfer rosa
the smiths - the queen is dead
pixies - doolittle
beastie boys - paul's boutique
talking heads - remain in light
sonic youth - daydream nation


albums i'm not sure because i haven't heard them:
gang of four - songs of the free
cocteau twins - treasure
mekons - the mekons rock n' roll
kate bush - hounds of love (i hear it's amazing, so good for them)
esg - come away with esg
talk talk - the colour of spring
manuel götschiing - e2-e4
the dbs - stands for decibels
the mekons - fear and whiskey
coil - horse retorvator
the feelies - crazy rhythms
The dukes of stratosphere - psonic psunspots
the soft boys - underwater moonlight
young marble giants - colossal youth (they pretty much put everything on rough trade in the 80's, right?)
leonard cohen - i'm your man
xtc - english settlement
talk talk - spirit of eden
brian eno and david byrne - my life in the bush of ghosts (i really want to listen to it!!)
this heat - deceit
tom waits - rain dogs

albums that suck and shouldn't be there:
david bowie - scary monsters
prince - dirty mind
too many cocteau twins albums
the fall - perverted by language (ok, it doesn't suck but there are more deserving albums)
they might be giants - lincoln (in my opinion, i haven't heard a single tmbg records i really like without getting tired after 5 seconds)
boogie down productions - criminally minded (deserves to be there but it's way too up in the list)
why two mekons albums?
too many meat puppet albums
elvis costello - trust
talking heads - stop making sense (that's cheating)
r.e.m. - reckoning
bruce springsteen - nebraska
elvis costello - imperial bedroom
pixies - come on pilgrim (should've put just one, two pixies albums tops)
the police - synchronicity (good, but should have just stayed with ghost...)
mission of burma - signals, calls and marches (it's just an ep)
spacemen 3 - the perfect prescription (good album but couldn't you put a loop album instead?)
r.e.m. - document
prince - sign o' the times
kraftwerk - computer world
run dmc - raising hell (ok, historical document, but not that great)
beastie boys - license to ill (funny but not the best of the 80's)
it would be fair if they had one replacements album
u2 - the joshua tree (even if it's their least crappy album, it's still some of the worst music ever)
new order - power corruption and lies (i personally have never gotten so much into new order, maybe they deserve the place since they are important)
michael jackson - thriller
elvis costello - get happy
prince - purple rain
r.e.m. - murmur

albums they forgot because they were too busy cramming shit like prince, elvis costello and r.e.m. into their list:

sonic youth - confusion is sex
black sabbath - heaven and hell and/or mob rules and/or born again
adolescents s/t
ozzy osbourne - diary of a madman
the gun club - fire of love
red cross (redd kross) - born innocent
iron maiden - either killers or the number of the beast or powerslave
venom - welcome to hell and/or black metal
flipper - album: generic flipper
the birthday party - junkyard
dead kennedys - at least fresh fruit for rotten vegetables
social distortion - mommy's little monster
bad brains s/t
metallica - at least master of puppets
slayer - at least reign in blood
corrosion of conformity - eye for an eye
d.r.i. - dealing with it or dirty rotten lp
misfits - walk among us
at least one einstürzende neubauten album
celtic frost - to mega therion
die kreuzen s/t
sodom - persecution mania
agnostic front - victim in pain
sonny sharrock - guitar
any pussy galore
voivod - rrroooaaarrr or killing technology
dark angel - darkness descends
megadeth - peace sells...
anthrax - among the living
descendents - milo goes to college
napalm death - scum
any loop album
butthole surfers - locust abortion technician
rapeman - two nuns and a pack of mule
morbid angel - altars of madness
mudhoney - superfuzz bigmuff (they put stuff that's not full lenght albums)
laughing hyenas - you can't pray a lie
last exit
godflesh - streetcleaner
cro-mags - age of quarrel
tsol - dance with me
christian death - only theater of pain
dna
teenage jesus and the jerks
glenn branca
mars
circle jerks - group sex
the wipers - is this real?
a bauhaus album
swans - children of god
the cramps - songs the lord taught us or psychedelic jungle or other

among many others i'm surely forgetting

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Old 04.15.2006, 01:20 AM   #33
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everyneurotic, i'll do a sandwich with items i disagree with you on as the bread and items i agree with you on as the meat. they might be giants is a band that either makes sense to you or not. if you don't like it, understandable, but they're deffinetly well loved enough by a very dedicated cult following to deserve to be on the list. i agree that the bad brains not being on is a god damn travesty. nebraska is one of the boss's finest. if you're gonna give any respect to any bruce springsteen album ever, it should be to this one and he is deffinetly an artist deserving of some r e s p e c t

they might be giants...in a way it is true, but i did comment on pure personal level, it was my opinion, and to me it seems that the criteria in pitchfork is either "what albums make sense in our sense that indie rock should (as in neutral milk hotel/sufjan stevens/belle and sebastian/clap your hands say yeah)" (which would explain all the rough trade/jangle pop albums on the list) or just plain "these are the albums we personally like but we'll call the list an authoritative 'the best of the 80's'". so yeah, if it would be a subjective list, they might be giants might as well be there, but since i made a case of my opinion, i would rather not put them on the list at all

as for bruce sprinsteen, in my opinion, he lost his balls in the 70's; he used to be really intense but then he turned boring. i remember seeing some concert footage from like '75 or something and the man was rocking it until he literally feel down. so when i hear anything from the 80's, it's just either bland or sickening commercial. i know nebraska is critically acclaimed and all and, as with they might be giants, you could make a case that it deserves a place if we were talking about a list thought out as coldly as possible; but it's my list and my point of view i proved in my post. in fact, i'd love to see everyone's lists of missing albums and "it deserves to be/doesn't deserve to be" albums.

and i know for a fact that most people would dismiss most of my metal selections as garbage but that's the way i see it. also, if the list were to be impartially a best of the 80's one, then they should at least consider some of my heavier selections.
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everyneurotic- thanks for pointing out that there's no dead kennedys... really, i don't see how that could be missed.

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it seems that the criteria in pitchfork is either "what albums make sense in our sense that indie rock should (as in neutral milk hotel/sufjan stevens/belle and sebastian/clap your hands say yeah)" (which would explain all the rough trade/jangle pop albums on the list) or just plain "these are the albums we personally like but we'll call the list an authoritative 'the best of the 80's'".
That's the point of a music magazine/website. Criticize and review, and they seem to have fixation on that side. I'm sure on the noize equivalent pitchfork's site they give the top 10 to the youth, swans, and what have you. But overall, it's better than some other 80's list I watch. Better than VH1 I'll tell you that.
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everyneurotic- thanks for pointing out that there's no dead kennedys... really, i don't see how that could be missed.


That's the point of a music magazine/website. Criticize and review, and they seem to have fixation on that side. I'm sure on the noize equivalent pitchfork's site they give the top 10 to the youth, swans, and what have you. But overall, it's better than some other 80's list I watch. Better than VH1 I'll tell you that.

true, but what irritates me is that they publish this and say it's "100 greatest albums of the 80's" like if they had the absolute truth on the matter or sometimes people take it like that, even if that might not be their intention (while i seriously doubt that, pitchfork have some stalinistic russia m.o. about rewriting music history). Yes, it is better than most lists but no, it's not the end all be all greatest albums of the 80's list

i think that's what i tried to point out
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Old 04.15.2006, 01:43 AM   #37
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Was Rock For Light on the list? It better be!
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Was Rock For Light on the list? It better be!

on the pitchfork list? no

on my list? i like the roir tape better production-wise; but you can't go wrong with early bad brains
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Yeah Rock For Light is one of my favorite albums ever......probably top ten.
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Old 04.15.2006, 05:45 AM   #40
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I had like 11 there.

Surprised not to see the smiths higher up thought they were the epitome of the 80's shite that came out then.
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