[drrrtyboots]

True, Black Cat and 9:30 are nice venues i hear. I've got a few friends who live in the area.

[drrrtyboots]

There's SO MUCH age restriction in NYC it sucks. They fucking card for 16+ shows. What's the point?

[k-krack]

thre is nowhere except the townehouse bar that is a true venue... some places are just big old halls transformed into venues for a few shows a year, its hella lame. there used to be this bar called 7 here, but it was all ages, and they put on fun shows. then some prick threw a brick into the window during a show, and fucked that up.any venue we get, some assholes fuck it up for us.

[touch me i'm sick]

yeah those are the ones i go to most. 930 club is nice cause it gets so crowded that it's easy to bring shit in and not get caught

[k-krack]

Originally Posted by drrrtyboots

There's SO MUCH age restriction in NYC it sucks. They fucking card for 16+ shows. What's the point?

what the fuck is 16+. did they just pick a number out of a hat!?

[drrrtyboots]

I know right? And what's stupid is they ask for a government issued ID with a photo on it when no one at 16 in NY has a license and school ID's aren't government issued obviously. It was some serious bullshit but i've gotten into those shows anyway, i just lie a little bit. I don't really understand 18+ either.

[touch me i'm sick]

yeah i think the only acceptable age restriciton should be 21 +

[k-krack]

yeah, like, give out bracelets fer chrissakes. it isn't fair cos the 18/19+ shows here are always eally awesome bands. like, JSBE, the Constantines came a few times, and apparently Wolf Parade might be coming (if they do, im getting in no matter what, ill find a way). and the young ones are left out in the cold with all these really boring "punk shows" with retards that wanna pummel eachothers faces in.

[drrrtyboots]

For real. But whatever, i usually get lucky when the really good shows pop up and i end up getting in fine. But some venues have bad age restrictions and a lot of good bands come through them.

[k-krack]

Originally Posted by touch me i'm sick

yeah i think the only acceptable age restriciton should be 21 +

i guess in the states but (unless im thinking wrong) drinking age is lower.. 19?

[touch me i'm sick]

punk shows are so annoying man. like i went o one in july cause there was a ska band i like playing, and like goddammit punk bands these days make me so fucking angry and annoyed

[k-krack]

uh-huh. theres a couple of really cool (old school stylez) hardcore bands out thissaways, but theres also really shitty hardcore.

[drrrtyboots]

21 is drinking in the states. But there are very few 21+ these days anyway, it's more 18+ on the east coast. Bullshit.

[k-krack]

well then that doesn't even have any logic to it!

[touch me i'm sick]

perhaps it's because of cigarettes smoking. but it's like who under the age of 18 can't get their hands on cigarettes anyways. it's too fuckin easy

[drrrtyboots]

But you can't smoke in-doors in NY anyway!!! It's fucking idiotic.

[k-krack]

down with whatever assholes came up with not all-ages shows. i say its killing time.

[touch me i'm sick]

oh eyah. that ban is coming into effect in dc at some point soon

[drrrtyboots]

And get this, the legal age for smoking is 16. Where as now where i live you can't buy cigerettes until you're 19. I don't smoke so it doesn't bother me but these venues are just trying to keep younger people out and it pisses me off. A large part of it is because they make a lot of their profit off the overpriced drinks so they don't want more people who can't drink.

[touch me i'm sick]

Originally Posted by k-krack

down with whatever assholes came up with not all-ages shows. i say its killing time.

i have my machette reardy