Highs and lows of the 2007 releases so far - Page 5

█████████ · 12.17.2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Am I the only person who thinks that Battles don't deserve all the hype that they have been getting?

no.

congrats to warp records marketing executive, though.

Torn Curtain · 12.17.2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Am I the only person who thinks that Battles don't deserve all the hype that they have been getting?

No, you're not. I didn't voice it as many people love them here.

nicfit · 12.17.2007, 10:21 AM

Yesterday I heard Atlas in a clip on Top Gear, I was happy.
I don't care at all if a band gets hyped or not as long as I like (even just a bit) what they do, and for bands I don't like I care even less.
That said, it's all "relative" , coz I wish everybody in the world knew the bands I really like, so I guess everyone judges the "hype" (too much/not enough) a band gets starting from how much he likes them.
Did I make a point in those mumbled lines?

12.17.2007, 10:24 AM

I've tried listening to that record a couple of times and found it just average, nothing more. I'm not saying that people shouldn't like it or anything, that's their taste and their choice, but really, it's nothing special like the media make it out to be. I even find it a little 'coffee table' for my liking.

nicfit · 12.17.2007, 10:29 AM

Yes I understand, the thoughts I expressed were on the subject of "hype" in general, not specifically on battles.
Your post confirms my thought, i.e. : if you think a band is nothing special, you will think that they don't deserve any "special" hype. I mean, it's always a consequence of your taste. (your=generic "you").
Sometimes I love bands that are, from a "logic/objective" pov, quite bad if not rubbish altogether. But still, something "clicks" and I love them - so I'd love to see them "hyped"

, also becuz more hype results in more tv appearances/shows/tours all things that increase the chances to get to see them play and stuff.

ps. as usual, my ideas on all the "hype" thing may be a bit influenced by the fact that here in italy the "media" cover stuff in a totally different way than in uk/usa, here you could see the Atlas video only after midnight in the "alternative" bits of music tvs and stuff, they're not that overexposed.

12.17.2007, 10:32 AM

Yeah, but I'm not a generic you. I'm better than that 'cause I'm me.

nicfit · 12.17.2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Yeah, but I'm not a generic you. I'm better than that 'cause I'm me.

heh!

Come back to italy and I'll vote for you.

PAULYBEE2656 · 12.17.2007, 12:06 PM

fuck hype, fuck trendyness bands to like, fuck the im way too cool to listen to that, fuck i prefer their older stuff, fuck all that shit right now.. mirrored is a damn fine album, my favourite of 2007. its great!

12.17.2007, 12:19 PM

Calm down, Paula, I said clearly that people's own personal taste is just that. I just can't hear what's so special about this record, that's all.

atsonicpark · 12.17.2007, 01:58 PM

porkmaraas, I made a list of my top 50 albums and that battles disc is like # 31 or something.. and I made a note that EVERYONE's going to say it's # 1 even though it's not THAT great.. .so, I'm with you.. sleeping people's "growing" is about a million times better, if you like math rock.

But yeah.. that Battles disc.. they're just not very good songwriters are they? Really, their producer and their drummer made that album worth listening to, but the songwriting is really inconsistent, there are songs on there that dont' go ANYWHERE. And the vocals are terrible and annoying. On the other hand, the drummer is REALLY REALLY REALLY good, and "Atlas" does deserve the hype it's recieved; great great song. And the second to last track is also great. But all in all, it's not even the Battles' best work. I dunno. I feel conflicted. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 7 to be certain.. but a LOT of the parts on the album sound really fucking stupid. I don't know how else to put it; certain riffs and keyboard lines just sound ridiculous and out-of-place. I think most of the album sounds like sections from really good songs, but Battles just hasn't figured out how to put it all together yet.

Seriously, go listen to Sleeping People instead...

nicfit · 12.17.2007, 02:06 PM

Sleeping People'g "growing" is a really good album but I don't like the "sound" of it

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_slavo_ · 12.17.2007, 03:29 PM

I liked the Battles album a lot.

gpw_sucks · 12.17.2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Seriously, go listen to Sleeping People instead...

Agreed.

Everyneurotic · 12.17.2007, 08:05 PM

battles and sleeping people are very meh, withinwhat they do they have done good albums this year; rather listen to crimson, to be honest.

more lows:

-icky dumb or whatever led zeppelin rip off the white stripes did.
-the horrors, worst band of the year.

Moshe · 12.18.2007, 04:29 AM

My list (from best to good):

Magik Markers – Boss
Battles – Mirrored
Original Silence – The FirstOriginal Silence
P. J. Harvey – White Chalk
Thurston Moore – Trees Outside The Academy
Six Organs Of Admittance – Shelter From The Ash
Cato Salsa Experience/The Thing/JoeMcphee -2 Bands And A Legend
Brotzmann Peter , Paal Nilssen-Love & Mats Gustafsson - The Fat Is Gone
Otomo Yoshihide's NewJazz Quintet - Live In Lisbon
Deerhunter – Cryptograms
Faust & Nurse With Wound – Disconnected
Text Of Light –Un Pranzo Fabuloso
Om – Pilgrimage
Sunburned Hand Of The Man - Fire Escape
Dinosaur Jr – Beyond
Electrelane - No Shouts, No Call
Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You The Destroyer
Wally Shoup/Paul Flaherty/Thurston Moore/Chris Corsano – The Roadhouse sessions
Shins - Wincing The Night Away
Burning Star Core- Blood Lightning
Vega Suzanne - Beauty & Crime (2007)
Borbetomagus And Hijokaidan - Both Noises End Burning
Wilco – Blue Sky Blue
Deerhoof - Friend Opportunity

✌➬ · 12.18.2007, 04:37 AM

Moshe I agree with Electrelane.

Also, I could never get into Battles, I found the album ok but somewhat forgettable.

Tokolosh · 12.18.2007, 05:10 AM

In no specific order:

Faust & Nurse With Wound – Disconnected
Six Organs Of Admittance – Shelter From The Ash
Sightings - Through the Panama
Beirut - The Flying Club Cup
Magik Markers – Boss
A Hawk and a Hacksaw - And the Hun Hangar Ensemble
Neurosis - Given to the Rising
Sage Francis - Human the Death Dance
The Julie Mittens - April/June

█████████ · 12.20.2007, 11:31 AM

"marfim" - tropa macaca
"sexually transmitted electricity" - lobster
"for the entrance of the sun" - dopo
"logic on its head" - loosers

Everyneurotic · 12.21.2007, 07:40 PM

another really low:

-clutch - from beale street to oblivion: what a horrible piece of shit was that?

another disappointment:

-deerhoof - friend opportunity.

Onani Nic · 12.22.2007, 02:16 AM

TOP 10
1. Andrew WK – Close Calls With Brick Walls
2. Mark Sultan – The Sultanic Verses
3. Darkthrone – F.O.A.D
4. Pumice- Pebbles
5. Skull Defekts – Skkull
6. Always- F.I.S.T
7. Ash Pool – World Turns On Its Hinge
8. High On Fire - Death is this Communion
9. Witchcraft- The Alchemist
10. Dizzee Rascal – Maths and English

12.17.2007, 10:21 AM	#83
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	Yesterday I heard Atlas in a clip on Top Gear, I was happy. I don't care at all if a band gets hyped or not as long as I like (even just a bit) what they do, and for bands I don't like I care even less. That said, it's all "relative" , coz I wish everybody in the world knew the bands I really like, so I guess everyone judges the "hype" (too much/not enough) a band gets starting from how much he likes them. Did I make a point in those mumbled lines? __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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12.17.2007, 10:24 AM	#84
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	I've tried listening to that record a couple of times and found it just average, nothing more. I'm not saying that people shouldn't like it or anything, that's their taste and their choice, but really, it's nothing special like the media make it out to be. I even find it a little 'coffee table' for my liking.
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12.17.2007, 10:29 AM	#85
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	Yes I understand, the thoughts I expressed were on the subject of "hype" in general, not specifically on battles. Your post confirms my thought, i.e. : if you think a band is nothing special, you will think that they don't deserve any "special" hype. I mean, it's always a consequence of your taste. (your=generic "you"). Sometimes I love bands that are, from a "logic/objective" pov, quite bad if not rubbish altogether. But still, something "clicks" and I love them - so I'd love to see them "hyped" , also becuz more hype results in more tv appearances/shows/tours all things that increase the chances to get to see them play and stuff. ps. as usual, my ideas on all the "hype" thing may be a bit influenced by the fact that here in italy the "media" cover stuff in a totally different way than in uk/usa, here you could see the Atlas video only after midnight in the "alternative" bits of music tvs and stuff, they're not that overexposed. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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12.17.2007, 10:32 AM	#86
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	Yeah, but I'm not a generic you. I'm better than that 'cause I'm me.
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12.17.2007, 12:06 PM	#88
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	fuck hype, fuck trendyness bands to like, fuck the im way too cool to listen to that, fuck i prefer their older stuff, fuck all that shit right now.. mirrored is a damn fine album, my favourite of 2007. its great! __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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12.17.2007, 12:19 PM	#89
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	Calm down, Paula, I said clearly that people's own personal taste is just that. I just can't hear what's so special about this record, that's all.
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12.17.2007, 01:58 PM	#90
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	porkmaraas, I made a list of my top 50 albums and that battles disc is like # 31 or something.. and I made a note that EVERYONE's going to say it's # 1 even though it's not THAT great.. .so, I'm with you.. sleeping people's "growing" is about a million times better, if you like math rock. But yeah.. that Battles disc.. they're just not very good songwriters are they? Really, their producer and their drummer made that album worth listening to, but the songwriting is really inconsistent, there are songs on there that dont' go ANYWHERE. And the vocals are terrible and annoying. On the other hand, the drummer is REALLY REALLY REALLY good, and "Atlas" does deserve the hype it's recieved; great great song. And the second to last track is also great. But all in all, it's not even the Battles' best work. I dunno. I feel conflicted. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 7 to be certain.. but a LOT of the parts on the album sound really fucking stupid. I don't know how else to put it; certain riffs and keyboard lines just sound ridiculous and out-of-place. I think most of the album sounds like sections from really good songs, but Battles just hasn't figured out how to put it all together yet. Seriously, go listen to Sleeping People instead... __________________
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12.17.2007, 02:06 PM	#91
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	Sleeping People'g "growing" is a really good album but I don't like the "sound" of it . __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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12.17.2007, 03:29 PM	#92
_slavo_ invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ðîññèÿ Posts: 10,886	I liked the Battles album a lot. __________________ you're the boy that can enjoy invisibility
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12.17.2007, 08:05 PM	#94
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	battles and sleeping people are very meh, withinwhat they do they have done good albums this year; rather listen to crimson, to be honest. more lows: -icky dumb or whatever led zeppelin rip off the white stripes did. -the horrors, worst band of the year. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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12.18.2007, 04:29 AM	#95
Moshe Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,862	My list (from best to good): Magik Markers – Boss Battles – Mirrored Original Silence – The FirstOriginal Silence P. J. Harvey – White Chalk Thurston Moore – Trees Outside The Academy Six Organs Of Admittance – Shelter From The Ash Cato Salsa Experience/The Thing/JoeMcphee -2 Bands And A Legend Brotzmann Peter , Paal Nilssen-Love & Mats Gustafsson - The Fat Is Gone Otomo Yoshihide's NewJazz Quintet - Live In Lisbon Deerhunter – Cryptograms Faust & Nurse With Wound – Disconnected Text Of Light –Un Pranzo Fabuloso Om – Pilgrimage Sunburned Hand Of The Man - Fire Escape Dinosaur Jr – Beyond Electrelane - No Shouts, No Call Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You The Destroyer Wally Shoup/Paul Flaherty/Thurston Moore/Chris Corsano – The Roadhouse sessions Shins - Wincing The Night Away Burning Star Core- Blood Lightning Vega Suzanne - Beauty & Crime (2007) Borbetomagus And Hijokaidan - Both Noises End Burning Wilco – Blue Sky Blue Deerhoof - Friend Opportunity
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12.18.2007, 04:37 AM	#96
✌➬ invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ιλ Posts: 5,754	Moshe I agree with Electrelane. Also, I could never get into Battles, I found the album ok but somewhat forgettable. __________________ We Kill Homosexuals!!!
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12.18.2007, 05:10 AM	#97
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	In no specific order: Faust & Nurse With Wound – Disconnected Six Organs Of Admittance – Shelter From The Ash Sightings - Through the Panama Beirut - The Flying Club Cup Magik Markers – Boss A Hawk and a Hacksaw - And the Hun Hangar Ensemble Neurosis - Given to the Rising Sage Francis - Human the Death Dance The Julie Mittens - April/June
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12.20.2007, 11:31 AM	#98
█████████ expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,736	"marfim" - tropa macaca "sexually transmitted electricity" - lobster "for the entrance of the sun" - dopo "logic on its head" - loosers
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12.21.2007, 07:40 PM	#99
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	another really low: -clutch - from beale street to oblivion: what a horrible piece of shit was that? another disappointment: -deerhoof - friend opportunity. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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12.22.2007, 02:16 AM	#100
Onani Nic the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 930	TOP 10 1. Andrew WK – Close Calls With Brick Walls 2. Mark Sultan – The Sultanic Verses 3. Darkthrone – F.O.A.D 4. Pumice- Pebbles 5. Skull Defekts – Skkull 6. Always- F.I.S.T 7. Ash Pool – World Turns On Its Hinge 8. High On Fire - Death is this Communion 9. Witchcraft- The Alchemist 10. Dizzee Rascal – Maths and English __________________ I don't give a fuck thats the problem. I see a motherfuckin cop i don't dodge them.
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