Go Back   Sonic Youth Gossip > Non-Sonics
Reload this Page Conceptual Poetry
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read

 
Thread Tools
Old 09.30.2010, 08:59 PM   #1
Decayed Rhapsody
the destroyed room
 
Decayed Rhapsody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 572
Decayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's assesDecayed Rhapsody kicks all y'all's asses
So uh, I don't know if anyone into literature here gives a shit about this. What do y'all think of conceptual poetry? The guy who runs UbuWeb, Kenneth Goldsmith, is a fairly big player in this world and fashions himself the consummate plagiarist, "uncreative" writer.

Goldsmith's essay on Being Boring: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/golds...th_boring.html

his works: http://www.ubu.com/contemp/goldsmith/

Bollocks or not? This doesn't really scratch my poetic itch that often, but I can see where some of these "writers" are coming from.

Christian Bok (who I dislike) defines it as this:
Quote:
Recent trends in technologies of communication (such as digitized sampling and networked exchange) have already begun to subvert the romantic
bastions of "creativity" and "authorship," calling into question the propriety of copyright through strategies of plagiaristic appropriation, computerized reduplication, and programmatic collaboration. Such developments have caused poets to theorize an innovative aesthetics of "conceptual literature" that has begun to question, if not to abandon, the lyrical mandate of originality in order to explore the potentials of the
"uncreative" be it automatic, mannerist, aleatoric, or readymade, in its literary practice. Some of the modernist notions of the both accidental and the procedural have begun increasingly to inform the current writing, by poets who find inspiration in the principles of conceptual art. Such poets have begun to use stolen texts, random words, forced rules, boring ideas, and even cyborg tools, in order to mobilize a variety of anti-expressive, anti-discursive strategies that erase any idiosyncratic demonstration of "lyric style." Such activity has become one of the most radical, if not one of the most popular, limit-cases of the avant-garde at the advent of the millennium.
Decayed Rhapsody is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 09.30.2010, 09:02 PM   #2
atsonicpark
invito al cielo
 
atsonicpark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 28,843
atsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's assesatsonicpark kicks all y'all's asses
Well, just like most things "conceptual", I'm really excited about talking about it and reading about it, but when it comes down to actually, y'know, exploring the actual product of the concepts, it usually doesn't thrill me half as much.

But I think Mr. Goldsmith is a talented man, and thank GOD for his beautiful site.
__________________




 
atsonicpark is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 10.03.2010, 09:12 AM   #3
verme (prevaricator)
100%
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 744
verme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's assesverme (prevaricator) kicks all y'all's asses
i enjoy it somewhat. flarf as well.
the method itself is nothing new, but seems relevant in the extent of it's contemporaneity.
verme (prevaricator) is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 10.03.2010, 12:52 PM   #4
Derek
invito al cielo
 
Derek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,095
Derek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's assesDerek kicks all y'all's asses
If you're attempting conceptual poetry then I'd assume you're more concerned with pushing some unexplored or sparse territory than creating something with cathartic resonance.
Derek is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|


Thread Tools

All content ©2006 Sonic Youth