[knox]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

you just got burned is all, good salvia is perhaps the wildest plant you could ever ingest, be careful playing with plants, they are not merely drugs, but gateways and bridges into the multi-dimensions that String Theory are finally letting even scientists admit exist. The Shamanistic reality is this, when you walk into these dimensions unaided and unguided and undisciplined, you may not get out and find yourself in a Labyrinth chased by Minotaurs

careful kids.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by knox

careful kids.

exactly, the more experienced understand this intuitively and unspoken as "the fear"

to the outside world you may have become institutionalized and insane, or even dead or missing perhaps, but you could only wish to be so lucky if you cross over into Eternity haphazardly or by accident.

[floatingslowly]

I would like to smoke some minotaur. or maybe unicorn. fuck yeah I'd smoke unicorn.

[Adolfo]

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/su...eriences.shtml

[Adolfo]

i'm using a pipe (like this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvk_El-LzdI). i'll try it again but this time with a blue-flame lighter. don't have a bong, unless i diy one.

[EVOLghost]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I would like to smoke some minotaur. or maybe unicorn. fuck yeah I'd smoke unicorn.

I got some unicorn and minotaur. I also have a few bags of dragon scales....but that ain't cheap ya hear?

Anyways here you are...first taste is free...

[tesla69]

This is not a party drug, and reading about kids doing this driving around is frightening. SuchFriends.. has it right. I have come to believe Aldous Huxley was right, these technologies should be used by artists and philosophers, not the masses. It sure isn't X. It can trigger seizures, but then, in preindustrial times epileptics were seen as holy people. When I visited the Space, I found many friends there wondering what took me so long!

[knox]

a lot of brazilian-native inspired "religions" are based on taking drugs and seeing god.

psychosis is serious shit. ask anyone who doesn't need drugs to have/develop it.

one of my teachers had a 16 year old daughter who took acid and jumped from the 16th flloor. not sure if she'd do it anyway, probably would.

but i think embarassing acid flashbacks are convincing enough for me.

[floatingslowly]

ITT: SYG trolls irl by getting kids to smoke seizure-inducing chemicals in hopes of discovering what's really behind the wizard's curtain.

protip: he's a wrinkled old hack who will leave you there, standing in your fancy red slippers, as he waves goodbye from his balloon.

there. I just saved you $19.99 and a trip to the headshop/amaxon.com

ps: what kinimkknidrugtripregretter said.

[knox]

well, drugs are illegal. you never know what's in it.
you can't sue them for it. cunts. no accountability.

[knox]

i need drugs to make me not crazy, not the opposite.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by knox

well, drugs are illegal. you never know what's in it.
you can't sue them for it. cunts. no accountability.

I think you've just stumbled upon a sure-fire way to get more lawyers involved in the anti-drugwar movement.

legalize---so we can sue!!

ps: you're not crazy. you're simply one of the few who's sane. true sanity will make you crazy.

[knox]

sure, because we don't have enough lawyers as it is.
c'mon lawyers. we can't pay as much as druglords but there are so many of us. help out.

[floatingslowly]

no no no. after legalization, megacorps move in. they're the ones with all the money and the power.

Substance D, where the D stands for Dow.

[knox]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

no no no. after legalization, megacorps move in. they're the ones with all the money and the power.

Substance D, where the D stands for Dow.

you can call customer service and get a lot of free samples.

[floatingslowly]

edit: lol wut

[floatingslowly]

the horror. the horror.

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by kinnikpasswordforgetter

then people end up hacking their own arms off in closets.
a girl apparently did that at Philip K. Dick's house.

thats absolute bullshit. what did she do hold the sword in her mouth? citation.

A Scanner Darkly is as much about the insanity of the treatment industry and enforcement programs as the deadly drug.

[floatingslowly]

in all fairness, she could have gripped the sword with her vagina.

....oh god I'm so hard right now.

[jonathan]

Originally Posted by kinnikpasswordforgetter

ever read about the first lsd freaks? they really did believe that it was literally a gateway to god. a cult formed and they went around preaching about it.

then people end up hacking their own arms off in closets.

a girl apparently did that at Philip K. Dick's house.

personally i think 'a scanner darkly' should be required reading for any young idiot who thinks drugs are so 'fucking crazy dude' and that they're going to be a pyschonautic rock star because mommys not around to enforce the taboo. of course if you dare speak negatively about the last refuges of a dying culture you're seen as somehow stealing everyones right to thought free enjoyment. they don't call them mongs for nothing.

i just got sick of these people puking on my couch and subjecting me to their boring incoherent ramblings. i wanted things to get WEIRD but usually with drugs they just get NORMAL but in a really absurd and amplified way. like concerns like money watching stupid shit on tv take on a holy import. what a joke. noones making any art or doing anything other than making stupid plans that they won't remember once the conversation is finished.

it seems humans are unable to learn their lessons about drugs. thats something that i rail against and that i always felt betrayed by. that my culture, or whatever it means to be part of some sort of culture, is fundamentally unable to transmit the truth about these substances. its just generation after generation of good people getting their lives literally destroyed by drugs. artists again and again being swallowed up by the same cliche. it shows up how all the pretensions of punk and art culture amounted to exactly jack shit. they failed completely. just a bunch of posing and macho nihilist hedonics. fuck that. learn some basic fucking neuro chemistry and shut your mouth about your experiences that you can only narrate with words like 'wow' and 'mad' and 'fucking stoned' and 'heavy'. i already opened the doors of perception, and all that was on the other side was a joint.

you are instead told to 'shut up' if you dont preach on behalf of the cult of 'enjoyment'. meanwhile everyones hurtling towards brain damage and psychosis because they've got to prove how 'cool' they are and brag about their experiences like getting high is some sort of mystical accomplishment.

Most (if not every) culture has used drugs to some extent, so to relativize drug use as something fundamentally unique to this culture is a bit of a stretch. I'm not saying I disagree with what you're saying. I have also been recently liberated from the throws of excess, and I'm a much better person for it. That doesn't mean I don't take a hit of some weed every once in a while, or have a beer, but it's all about priorities and moderation. You're overlooking the anti-drug cultural hegemony that is totally blown out of proportion and tells horrendous half-truths about these drugs and their inherent risks.

I definitely agree, all drugs are risky when used excessively. I think honest drug information is exactly what is needed because a well-educated population is one that (theoretically) can make smart choices. I'm a little fucked up by my excessive weed use, I think, if not for all the years I spent listening to the Soft Machine in my room by myself, bowl in hand. I know people that have developed some anxiety issues that they're fairly certain are related to their weed use. I'm pretty sure I have as well. Regardless, had I used weed moderately (twice a week at the very most), I think I would be in a much better position. Same goes for booze. Hallucinageons are a different deal. Really, only certain people can use them successfully. I happen to be one of those people. I'm relatively stable and had overall positive experiences with them. At the same time, I never used them excessively (except salvia) so maybe I'm not one to talk.

The bottom line. Do your research. Know yourself. Moderation.