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Old 07.23.2006, 12:39 PM   #1
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New Sonic Youth single on Sub Pop
July 23, 2006

According to Brainwashed upcoming releases section, Sub Pop records will release a new Sonic youth single on October 3rd. The single that is titled "Creamsicle" will be available on a 7" format.

 
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sweet! Im just getting into SY vinyl collecting so i cant wait!
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i wonder if they're thinking about going on sub pop?
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i wonder if they're thinking about going on sub pop?
I was wondering the same thing. I figured that after they were done with Geffen they would just release their music on their own label, like Ecstatic Peace or SYR.
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I was wondering the same thing. I figured that after they were done with Geffen they would just release their music on their own label, like Ecstatic Peace or SYR.


they'd never release full albums by themselves, that's just way too much work for them. it's not like they're 18. they are way too old and don't have enough energy to run their own label for a band that sells a couple hundred thousand albums(that's ALOT of albums).

my guess is that if they don't get a major label contract, they either:

1. go on Sub Pop or Matador(my guess would be matador)
2. retire as a full time band


i'm thinking if they don't get a major label, they probably might retire.
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well i really hope they dont decide to retire. sub pop would be a good choice for them, and who knows, this 7" could very well be a transition to the label.
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I think if they wanted to they could just sell all their stuff on Goofin records on the website

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I think a label like SubPop might be very interested in signing Sonic Youth. I'm looking forward to that single (and wondering if I'll be able to find a copy).

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nope, they couldn't. goofin? what's that? are you referring to the "4 tuna brix" project? 10,000 is manageable. 200,000-300,000 isn't.

fans forget that SY are pretty old and it's not easy running a label. younger fans think running a label is as easy as burning CD-Rs on your computer and a sharpie for the songs on a xerox copy paper cover, they're a bit naive and selfish and forget that Thurston & Kim have a family of their own, same with Steve and that everyone(except steve) is in their 50s(kim probably late 50s).

also, sy are not business people.

i know it's sad, but all great things do come to an end. i hope they pull out a couple more albums before they call it a day.
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i know it's sad, but all great things do come to an end. i hope they pull out a couple more albums before they call it a day.[/quote]

Man, people have been talking like this since NYC Ghosts and Flowers came out. I really don't think we have much to worry about. Why does everyone assume they're not gonna stay on Geffen/Universal? Their contract is ending but Thurston just made a deal for them to distribute Ecstatic Peace. I don't think they're really yearning to switch labels, or move to an indie, or anything. The way they've always talked about it is that the major label doesn't interfere, doesn't even ask them when they're gonna have new record out, but that they record something, send it over, and the label pencils it in for release. That sounds like a great fucking set up to me. If anything I could see them moving to ecstatic peace, but still, I don't see what would be to gain from it, or really what the difference would be. Except for some contrived pull for Indie Credibility, which is something the Youth practically invented, and obviously don't care about as a status symbol.
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nope, they couldn't. goofin? what's that? are you referring to the "4 tuna brix" project? 10,000 is manageable. 200,000-300,000 isn't.

fans forget that SY are pretty old and it's not easy running a label. younger fans think running a label is as easy as burning CD-Rs on your computer and a sharpie for the songs on a xerox copy paper cover, they're a bit naive and selfish and forget that Thurston & Kim have a family of their own, same with Steve and that everyone(except steve) is in their 50s(kim probably late 50s).

also, sy are not business people.

i know it's sad, but all great things do come to an end. i hope they pull out a couple more albums before they call it a day.

Thurston does a good job of distributing BYOP's album on Ectsatic Peace.

But who knows
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Man, people have been talking like this since NYC Ghosts and Flowers came out. I really don't think we have much to worry about. Why does everyone assume they're not gonna stay on Geffen/Universal? Their contract is ending but Thurston just made a deal for them to distribute Ecstatic Peace. I don't think they're really yearning to switch labels, or move to an indie, or anything. The way they've always talked about it is that the major label doesn't interfere, doesn't even ask them when they're gonna have new record out, but that they record something, send it over, and the label pencils it in for release. That sounds like a great fucking set up to me. If anything I could see them moving to ecstatic peace, but still, I don't see what would be to gain from it, or really what the difference would be. Except for some contrived pull for Indie Credibility, which is something the Youth practically invented, and obviously don't care about as a status symbol.

Kim said in an interview or something that RR would be thier last album for Geffen and that they would not be renewing a contract with them, or somthieng like that.
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Man, people have been talking like this since NYC Ghosts and Flowers came out. I really don't think we have much to worry about. Why does everyone assume they're not gonna stay on Geffen/Universal? Their contract is ending but Thurston just made a deal for them to distribute Ecstatic Peace. I don't think they're really yearning to switch labels, or move to an indie, or anything. The way they've always talked about it is that the major label doesn't interfere, doesn't even ask them when they're gonna have new record out, but that they record something, send it over, and the label pencils it in for release. That sounds like a great fucking set up to me. If anything I could see them moving to ecstatic peace, but still, I don't see what would be to gain from it, or really what the difference would be. Except for some contrived pull for Indie Credibility, which is something the Youth practically invented, and obviously don't care about as a status symbol.


i'm not sure whether or not it's true that thurston is having EP distribuited by Geffen/Universal. if you have a link that explains it all, that would be great. maybe EP is being distributed by the same company that distributes Geffen/Universal? or maybe EP is being distributed by a sister company or a company that's owned by Geffen/Universal?

i'm not sure if sy are really happy with how geffen has been treating them either. earlier on in their corporate rock careers, sy were very supportive, but i haven't heard anything since. if anything, i think geffen's done a poor job promoting them since washing machine. 1KL was not promoted very well, nyg&f came out of nowhere, murray st was not promoted that well, sonic nurse was promoted a little better and rather ripped seems to be promoted ok. looking at the last 10 years, sy really have gotten by because of their core audience and incredible reputation and themselves making things happen. they've been playing way more free concerts, festivals, opening up for bigger bands, they've been pushing themselves. honestly, i don't think geffen's really promoted sy anywhere close like they did with goo/dirty/experimental/washing machine.

i don't think it's possible for SY to put out their own albums, that's just way too big of a scale to manage. Sub Pop & Matador don't even sell very many bands at that kind of scale, i highly doubt that thurston would be able to do what sub-pop & matator can do, that's just unimagineable.

younger people forget that running a label takes alot of work. comparing albums you may press 3-5K to an album you're pressing 200-300K is like a little league t-ball coach trying to coach a championship contending MLB team. i know its hard for you younger people to see this, but things are easier said than done.

although even J&MC made the move to Sub Pop & Matador do have some really popular bands on their roster, i don't know if SY would want to make the move to a minor label(i won't say major because both have corporate distribution). they won't make the same money, they both won't be able to tour as comfortably as they have on a major, and let's face it, they're pretty up there in age.

i haven't talked about SY & the possibility of retirement until i found out geffen didn't resign them(yet) and that this was their last album, but i started thinking about them as people, people with lives of their own, people not put on earth to fill our selfish music needs, people with children & families, people who are not too far away from collecting social security.

how much energy does sy have left in them to struggle with finding a new label and putting out more records? i don't know. alot of professional sports athletes retire when they're old(SY are comparable to a 40+yr old basket ball player...something that never happens) because they just want to be with their family and they have enough money to live on.
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