Going to see Dillinger Escape Plan next month

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 11.07.2007, 07:14 PM

Should be fucking sick!

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Everyneurotic · 11.07.2007, 07:17 PM

you know the only original member left is ben weisman, right? and only the bass player and the singer are from the miss machine lineup?

i saw them two years ago and they were insane.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 11.07.2007, 07:23 PM

Yeah.
When I heard they changed the drummer I was quite upset, but listening to their new stuff it's pretty great. Slowly becoming more melodic though.

Everyneurotic · 11.07.2007, 07:25 PM

i'm quite afraid of ire works.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 11.07.2007, 07:30 PM

What do you mean?

Everyneurotic · 11.07.2007, 07:35 PM

i don't want to hate dep, i really don't want to.

miss machine was ok...make that "spotty" but some songs were awesome, and now with this new one, chris is out of the band, i personally think dimitri was a way better singer than greg and ben seems very defensive on interviews (not a good sign) and i can only wonder what that album sounds like, i don't want to be disappointed by it.

i figured i'll eventually listen to it and hope it's what i imagine (conventional song structures and melodic vocals without overtly going metalcore and retaining the crazy ass playing in some ways) and not what i hope it's not.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 11.07.2007, 07:41 PM

You can here the entire thing on their myspace page.
It has a lot more, electronic, dare I say sounding elements to it. Compared to calculating infinity being more guitar influenced. Also Greg seems to be using a lot more different vocal styles.

Norma J · 11.07.2007, 08:00 PM

I didn't know they had new members.

HaydenAsche · 11.07.2007, 09:04 PM

They've lost their fire. I saw them a few years back and it was pretty good.

atsonicpark · 11.07.2007, 10:28 PM

Okay, I was an.. uhm.. "original" DEP fan (from their self-titled days; Under the Running Board, Calculating Infinity, and their splits with Drowningman and Nora blew my fucknig mind at 14 years old).. but Miss Machine was shit. Pure fucking shit. Just terrible. Greg is such a worthless vocalist. He sounds like a fucking idiot. He can't decide if he wants to be Trent Reznor, Dimitri, or Mike Patton -- and he ends up sounding dumber than that Horse the band fucker. Plus, their songs on that album that sounded kinda like Linkin Park (if you don't believe me, go back and listen) were an embarassment. I know they were, uh "trying to do something different", but yeah. It sucked ass. I haven't heard the new one; I'll give it a fair assessment, but yeah. I really really don't like the direction they're going on, and I doubt it'll be any good (not to mention that pretty much all their members left).

I don't think they've "sold out" or whatever, I just think they create music that isn't very good anymore.

Still, I'd see 'em live again. Saw 'em live many years ago, and they had a firebreather on stage. So much fucking energy. Awesome.

Everyneurotic · 11.07.2007, 10:57 PM

i was trying to be very positive about miss machine, some songs are amazing, panasonic youth ranks with caffeine and sugar coated sour or mullet burden as one of their best songs; but i did mean to say they had some really shitty songs (that's why i used the word "spotty") there too. my favorite part of miss machine is the dvd that comes with it.

like i said, i don't like greg's singing, he's more like a stage presence.

Norma J · 11.07.2007, 10:59 PM

Listening to some of their new album on their myspace, pretty fuckin' cool actually.

Any of you like In Name and Blood? Been listening to them alot again lately.

EMMAh · 11.07.2007, 11:21 PM

I don't really like them. I saw them maybe two and a half years ago and the one guy there was bleeding all over. They're crazy people.

Norma J · 11.08.2007, 01:20 AM

Yes. When they're setting shit on fire and all that crap, I do wonder where the fun is? Serious, emotive shit is cool and all, there's just an invisible line that some bands cross which makes me a little uneasy. Or maybe fire just scares me abit. But aggressive live shows aren't really my bag - I'd prefer to listen to the album instead when it's like that.

jimbrim · 11.08.2007, 10:54 AM

Saw them a couple of years back, possibly one of the loudest gigs ive been to.

Everyneurotic · 11.08.2007, 10:54 AM

when i saw them live, they weren't like violent or anything, they just played really fucking hard and kept jumping and running and stuff; at some point, greg grabbed ben's guitar cab and put it in the middle of the stage and when they played "when good dogs do bad things", on the quiet part in the middle, ben climbed on top of the cab, when the song resumed he jumped and went crazy.

in the middle of the show, ben and brian's guitar cords got tangled with greg's mic cable and it took them some 7 minutes to have them undone and so they could go back to playing the set.

it wasn't violent at all, in fact, there wasn't a mosh pit or anything when they played, most people were too stunned to start one...and one band before, a static lullaby or whatever that shit ass band is called, people were slamming and crowd surfing.

HaydenAsche · 11.08.2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J

Any of you like In Name and Blood? Been listening to them alot again lately.

I just heard them a couple of weeks ago. One of my friends is really into them. They're pretty good for alot of the shitty music that they get lumped in with.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 11.08.2007, 03:09 PM

Atleast the show will be loud.
I hope.

Norma J · 11.08.2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

I just heard them a couple of weeks ago. One of my friends is really into them. They're pretty good for alot of the shitty music that they get lumped in with.

Yeah, they're cool. And you're right, they do get lumped with that scene, when they're really just a metal band. I went on their myspace for the first time in a long time, and the two demos they have up don't do anything for me as opposed to their self-titled and Dead Water albums which are fuckin' awesome. So on account of the demos (which are old) I'm kinda glad they split, considering the demos Worms of the Earth have up on their page at the moment (Coreys new band). http://www.myspace.com/wormsoftheearthlovebeerbongs

Everyneurotic · 11.08.2007, 11:24 PM

in other "great bands lumped with shit scenes" norma jean came to mexico and their regular singer got sick or something and couldn't make it, so who do they get for the show here? JOSH FUCKING SCOGGIN!!!!

sure enough, i though nj were gonna play their mcr-sounding set so i didn't go, fuck!!!!!

well, at least i got to see the chariot last year.

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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	you know the only original member left is ben weisman, right? and only the bass player and the singer are from the miss machine lineup? i saw them two years ago and they were insane. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	Yeah. When I heard they changed the drummer I was quite upset, but listening to their new stuff it's pretty great. Slowly becoming more melodic though. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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11.07.2007, 07:35 PM	#6
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i don't want to hate dep, i really don't want to. miss machine was ok...make that "spotty" but some songs were awesome, and now with this new one, chris is out of the band, i personally think dimitri was a way better singer than greg and ben seems very defensive on interviews (not a good sign) and i can only wonder what that album sounds like, i don't want to be disappointed by it. i figured i'll eventually listen to it and hope it's what i imagine (conventional song structures and melodic vocals without overtly going metalcore and retaining the crazy ass playing in some ways) and not what i hope it's not. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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11.07.2007, 07:41 PM	#7
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	You can here the entire thing on their myspace page. It has a lot more, electronic, dare I say sounding elements to it. Compared to calculating infinity being more guitar influenced. Also Greg seems to be using a lot more different vocal styles. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	I didn't know they had new members. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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HaydenAsche invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,755	They've lost their fire. I saw them a few years back and it was pretty good. __________________ rip
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Okay, I was an.. uhm.. "original" DEP fan (from their self-titled days; Under the Running Board, Calculating Infinity, and their splits with Drowningman and Nora blew my fucknig mind at 14 years old).. but Miss Machine was shit. Pure fucking shit. Just terrible. Greg is such a worthless vocalist. He sounds like a fucking idiot. He can't decide if he wants to be Trent Reznor, Dimitri, or Mike Patton -- and he ends up sounding dumber than that Horse the band fucker. Plus, their songs on that album that sounded kinda like Linkin Park (if you don't believe me, go back and listen) were an embarassment. I know they were, uh "trying to do something different", but yeah. It sucked ass. I haven't heard the new one; I'll give it a fair assessment, but yeah. I really really don't like the direction they're going on, and I doubt it'll be any good (not to mention that pretty much all their members left). I don't think they've "sold out" or whatever, I just think they create music that isn't very good anymore. Still, I'd see 'em live again. Saw 'em live many years ago, and they had a firebreather on stage. So much fucking energy. Awesome. __________________
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11.07.2007, 10:57 PM	#11
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i was trying to be very positive about miss machine, some songs are amazing, panasonic youth ranks with caffeine and sugar coated sour or mullet burden as one of their best songs; but i did mean to say they had some really shitty songs (that's why i used the word "spotty") there too. my favorite part of miss machine is the dvd that comes with it. like i said, i don't like greg's singing, he's more like a stage presence. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	Listening to some of their new album on their myspace, pretty fuckin' cool actually. Any of you like In Name and Blood? Been listening to them alot again lately. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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EMMAh invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,433	I don't really like them. I saw them maybe two and a half years ago and the one guy there was bleeding all over. They're crazy people. __________________
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11.08.2007, 01:20 AM	#14
Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	Yes. When they're setting shit on fire and all that crap, I do wonder where the fun is? Serious, emotive shit is cool and all, there's just an invisible line that some bands cross which makes me a little uneasy. Or maybe fire just scares me abit. But aggressive live shows aren't really my bag - I'd prefer to listen to the album instead when it's like that. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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jimbrim expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,308	Saw them a couple of years back, possibly one of the loudest gigs ive been to.
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Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	Atleast the show will be loud. I hope. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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11.08.2007, 11:24 PM	#20
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	in other "great bands lumped with shit scenes" norma jean came to mexico and their regular singer got sick or something and couldn't make it, so who do they get for the show here? JOSH FUCKING SCOGGIN!!!! sure enough, i though nj were gonna play their mcr-sounding set so i didn't go, fuck!!!!! well, at least i got to see the chariot last year. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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