Metal Box book

ricechex · 05.04.2009, 09:56 AM

Anyone ever read this? I ordered it bc i have been completely fascinated with early PIL for a long time and there is very little in the way of history about it.

http://www.amazon.com/John-Lydons-Me...1448724&sr=8-8

batreleaser · 05.04.2009, 10:52 AM

awesome. one of the most perfect records ever.

ricechex · 05.04.2009, 11:34 AM

Yeah, i agree 100%. Ive been so into them lately I'm actually listening to Flowers of Romance and LIKING it..ha.

tesla69 · 05.04.2009, 02:14 PM

I was a little let down by the book, I think because I really wanted MORE! The same way I feel about 2nd Edition. So I bought the Death Disco extended 12".

PAULYBEE2656 · 05.04.2009, 02:20 PM

one of the finest albums ever.......

jon boy · 05.04.2009, 02:20 PM

metal box is a really really good record.

gmku · 05.04.2009, 02:22 PM

I love Metal Box. The cover art could not be more genius.

ricechex · 05.04.2009, 02:36 PM

i found this. hit the drop down there's some good info in there, esp about the original metal box itself.

http://www.fodderstompf.com/fodhome.html

dionysusundone · 05.04.2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricechex

Yeah, i agree 100%. Ive been so into them lately I'm actually listening to Flowers of Romance and LIKING it..ha.

I've always been fond of that one actually.

ricechex · 05.04.2009, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dionysusundone

I've always been fond of that one actually.

I guess i was half joking, but i only really remembered a few of the tracks as being anything of merit.. Track 8, Under the House, and Banging the Door...that is until i put in on again recently. It works as a whole album to me more now. Back then you could put Lydon in any format and that basically made it. I'm sure he would agree.

dionysusundone · 05.05.2009, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricechex

I guess i was half joking, but i only really remembered a few of the tracks as being anything of merit.. Track 8, Under the House, and Banging the Door...that is until i put in on again recently. It works as a whole album to me more now. Back then you could put Lydon in any format and that basically made it. I'm sure he would agree.

I can see that...it took me a while to get into it too. I've got an original copy of it on vinyl...I love the cover art so much.

batreleaser · 05.05.2009, 10:16 AM

first edition is rad too, ill put that on now.

i hav the vinyl that comes literally in this big metal box thingy. it was 40 bucks, but worth it.

tesla69 · 05.05.2009, 10:22 AM

Its never been confirmed to me that Metal Box is a different mix than Second Edition - or maybe there are some demos?

Has anyone ever heard Wobble's Blueberry Hill album? Supposedly Wobble took ('stole' if you listen to Levine) a bunch of the bass lines he had worked up for PiL for his own album. Wobble's upcoming biography could be interesting. I didn't follow his post-PiL music much because I bought that Human Condition cassette that came out after he left PiL and it didn't have the same kick. And hardcore punk took a lot of my attention.

ricechex · 05.05.2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69

Its never been confirmed to me that Metal Box is a different mix than Second Edition - or maybe there are some demos?

Has anyone ever heard Wobble's Blueberry Hill album? Supposedly Wobble took ('stole' if you listen to Levine) a bunch of the bass lines he had worked up for PiL for his own album. Wobble's upcoming biography could be interesting. I didn't follow his post-PiL music much because I bought that Human Condition cassette that came out after he left PiL and it didn't have the same kick. And hardcore punk took a lot of my attention.

I don't think there's a different mix between Metal Box and Second Edition. I think i had heard that too. I'm wondering if that's just rumor based on other similar things going on with them, like Commerical Zone, in which Levine took an albums worth of material after Second Edition that was a diff version than "This is What You Want". And then you had the Wobble album you spoke of. I have a few versions of Second Edition. Vinyl, 2 copies of the cd, and Metal Box and they sound the same. BUT the Metal Box canister reissue thing sounds utterly fantastic due to fine remastering. Don't know if they're still producing em', but I HIGHLY recommend it.

atari 2600 · 02.15.2012, 02:16 PM

How we made: Jah Wobble and Keith Levene on Public Image Ltd's Metal Box
'The album was created with no talking. It's telepathy – Wobble and me just have that'

an article in the Guardian from this Monday
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/20...vene-metal-box
(promo for London club date in March at the end)

CHOUT posted about the book too
http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...ighlight=metal
but placing this post here...

gmku · 02.15.2012, 02:39 PM

picked up the LP reissue of Metal Box on the 4MenwithBeards label a few years ago. only wish I'd been smart enough to grab the original thing when it came out. From what I've heard 4Men did a faithful job of recreating Metal Box.

I remember seeing it when it first came out and thinking it was interesting but I have no idea why I never picked it up. Probably too much under the influence of my Stones phase.

hirsute_biped · 02.16.2012, 12:38 AM

This might be important:

http://louderthanwar.com/featured/ja...-the-interview
http://www.therubylounge.org/index.p...pecial_guests/

lets hope for some documentation, surely we have some capable boarders in country...

atari 2600 · 02.16.2012, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirsute_biped

...

lets hope for some documentation, surely we have some capable boarders in country...

This myspace page has a few clips of what Jah and Keith sounded like in 2010 with Nathan from The Sex Pistols Experience on vox.
http://www.myspace.com/publicimitationltd

hirsute_biped · 02.17.2012, 12:44 PM

oh, did this happen last year? I thought it was current/future tense.

gmku · 02.18.2012, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricechex

I don't think there's a different mix between Metal Box and Second Edition. I think i had heard that too. I'm wondering if that's just rumor based on other similar things going on with them, like Commerical Zone, in which Levine took an albums worth of material after Second Edition that was a diff version than "This is What You Want". And then you had the Wobble album you spoke of. I have a few versions of Second Edition. Vinyl, 2 copies of the cd, and Metal Box and they sound the same. BUT the Metal Box canister reissue thing sounds utterly fantastic due to fine remastering. Don't know if they're still producing em', but I HIGHLY recommend it.

No, not different mixes. But because the box set is on 45rpm, the sound quality is markedly better.

05.04.2009, 09:56 AM	#1
ricechex the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 582	Anyone ever read this? I ordered it bc i have been completely fascinated with early PIL for a long time and there is very little in the way of history about it. http://www.amazon.com/John-Lydons-Me...1448724&sr=8-8 __________________
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.04.2009, 10:52 AM	#2
batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	awesome. one of the most perfect records ever. __________________ listen to pink reason
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.04.2009, 11:34 AM	#3
ricechex the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 582	Yeah, i agree 100%. Ive been so into them lately I'm actually listening to Flowers of Romance and LIKING it..ha. __________________
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.04.2009, 02:14 PM	#4
tesla69 Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4,055	I was a little let down by the book, I think because I really wanted MORE! The same way I feel about 2nd Edition. So I bought the Death Disco extended 12".
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.04.2009, 02:20 PM	#5
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	one of the finest albums ever....... __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.04.2009, 02:20 PM	#6
jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	metal box is a really really good record. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.04.2009, 02:22 PM	#7
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	I love Metal Box. The cover art could not be more genius. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.04.2009, 02:36 PM	#8
ricechex the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 582	i found this. hit the drop down there's some good info in there, esp about the original metal box itself. http://www.fodderstompf.com/fodhome.html __________________
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.05.2009, 10:16 AM	#12
batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	first edition is rad too, ill put that on now. i hav the vinyl that comes literally in this big metal box thingy. it was 40 bucks, but worth it. __________________ listen to pink reason
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.05.2009, 10:22 AM	#13
tesla69 Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4,055	Its never been confirmed to me that Metal Box is a different mix than Second Edition - or maybe there are some demos? Has anyone ever heard Wobble's Blueberry Hill album? Supposedly Wobble took ('stole' if you listen to Levine) a bunch of the bass lines he had worked up for PiL for his own album. Wobble's upcoming biography could be interesting. I didn't follow his post-PiL music much because I bought that Human Condition cassette that came out after he left PiL and it didn't have the same kick. And hardcore punk took a lot of my attention.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

02.15.2012, 02:16 PM	#15
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	How we made: Jah Wobble and Keith Levene on Public Image Ltd's Metal Box 'The album was created with no talking. It's telepathy – Wobble and me just have that' an article in the Guardian from this Monday http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/20...vene-metal-box (promo for London club date in March at the end) CHOUT posted about the book too http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...ighlight=metal but placing this post here...
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

02.15.2012, 02:39 PM	#16
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	picked up the LP reissue of Metal Box on the 4MenwithBeards label a few years ago. only wish I'd been smart enough to grab the original thing when it came out. From what I've heard 4Men did a faithful job of recreating Metal Box. I remember seeing it when it first came out and thinking it was interesting but I have no idea why I never picked it up. Probably too much under the influence of my Stones phase. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

02.16.2012, 12:38 AM	#17
hirsute_biped the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manta Sonica, California Posts: 1,165	This might be important: http://louderthanwar.com/featured/ja...-the-interview http://www.therubylounge.org/index.p...pecial_guests/ lets hope for some documentation, surely we have some capable boarders in country...
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

02.17.2012, 12:44 PM	#19
hirsute_biped the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manta Sonica, California Posts: 1,165	oh, did this happen last year? I thought it was current/future tense.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|