[Glice]

I'm glad you emphasised the only reason I could be bothered to respond.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Glice

This isn't absolute, but it isn't therefore obscure. I don't believe you don't understand what I said, and what I was getting at. I also don't think you're thinking I was making an empirical statement. I think you're well aware that I was describing why I don't like the Melvins. I'm sure you're aware this doesn't matter one jot in the great manner of things.

Oh, well, I already admitted as much in my reply to sarramkrop. I thought you were still pressing the case beyond opining sentiment. Sorry for my confusion.

[Glice]

It's fine dear. Just don't do it again or I will e-scowl at you so hard your face will be ashen. Ashen!

[Genteel Death]

Ok, can we go back to the original subject of this thread, now?

[pbradley]

Good lord, the Griffin image really does add a lot to that. I can't help but think my face wouldn't be so ashen as much as my my eyes would go all wonky.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Ok, can we go back to the original subject of this thread, now?

Yeah, Melvins are a dead-end band.

Some good stuff leading to the shore of a sea of boredom.

[Genteel Death]

I remember Buzzo saying that the melvins were his favourite band till he was over them.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Ok, can we go back to the original subject of this thread, now?

I hear that Buzzo is a really nice person. And I'm sure that's true. Which is part of the problem. If he was a genuinely horrible person, like Varg or someone, that'd make the music at least convincing. As it is, it's just a drab wall of lifeless riffing. It's like hardcore porn with limp penises, all thrusting and no spunk.

[floatingslowly]

I found a reason to keep singing.

 

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Glice

The thing with music is that there is a vernacular of musicology. The problem with rock is that pretty much anything like the Melvins is a very short conversation. Blues, slower, sometimes fewer intervals, long. That's it. Talking about the audience gets to the genuine subtleties in the music (timbre, tone, production etc) much quicker than describing what valves they use on their amps. It's usually easier to use oblique, inexact euphemisms than it is to treat music like a lab-case.

This is true, but only if in 2010 you apply it to not just rock music, but also to much house, happy hardcore, dub, hip hop, and way too much pop music produced in this time and age, which you seem to more or less enjoy.
A lot of the rock music I like I'm dead certain hasn't been composed with a mindset that worried about what the analysis of an expert musicologist makes out of it, even the kind that seems to stretche the conventions of what was previously there, or, like I often find now, takes inspiration from the more under-explored corners of otherwise celebrated ''golden eras'' of music. I find the whole debate on the alleged antagonism between pop music/electronic music in general and guitars to be a regurgitation of British music journalism of the now distant past, since time and again, and particularly in the past decade, the instrumentation of a considerable number of rock bands has in many cases evolved from the more prominent set up consisting of just guitar/bass/drums/vox of yore.

[Seandi]

Rockism... When will it die?

[the ikara cult]

was Buzzo the one who went to prison?

[demonrail666]

No, that was Nelson Mandela

[Dead-Air]

Put me down in the veneration camp. A world without them would be as fun as a world without german chocolate cheesecake. I hope I get extra credit for the perfect pathetic stoner analogy too.

[atsonicpark]

Brilliant band. Really intelligent songwriting. They take all their songs in extremely interesting directions... they're also one of the most consistently great bands of all time, up there with the Fall.

[atsonicpark]

Ideas for future installments - Whitehouse, Nurse With Wound, The Cure, Black Flag, Dinosaur Jr., Yeah Yeah Yeahs, My Bloody Valentine, nearly every riot grrl band except Bikini Kill, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

[Genteel Death]

Glice sent in a Pavement suggestion, and who am I do decline?

[atsonicpark]

Ah, that's a good choice. I think Slanted and Wowee are great albums, but meh..

[GeneticKiss]

How about Sonic Youth? I know, they're my favorite band of all time too, but you have to admit they could be just as easy to hate as they are to love...

But honestly, I think anyone who hates the Melvins on the basis that a good number of their songs are slow and sludgy hasn't really heard a whole lot of their stuff. Mind you, I've only got Houdini, but I wouldn't call every song on there "metal"...

[Genteel Death]

I never suggested that they are a metal band, if you are looking at me, I only implied that they are shitcore.