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Old 08.21.2006, 02:36 PM   #1
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Why are there so few british female singers/musicians? I have been thinking about this for a days now.

I thought of P.J. Harvey, Annie Lennox, Kate Bush. And then Spice Girls, Sugababes. And Elastica, Echobelly.

But where is the british Suzanne Vega, Joan Baez, Karen Carpenter, Joni Mitchel, Courtney Love, Kim Gordon, Laurie Anderson, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Christina Aquilera, Billie Holiday?

Great Britain produced some of the finest music ever (Beatles, Stones, Bowie, Queen, Smiths, Stone Roses, Happy Mondays), but it's all men. Where are the ladies???
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Old 08.21.2006, 02:43 PM   #2
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It's a very good question actually. I'd never really considered it before. You forgot Sleeper, but it's a bit grabbing at straws.

We've got Lady Sov, MIA and you won't find a city without its fair share of Annie diShit-o alikes. There's plenty of the stuff you're asking for, but most of it is pretty marginal and not very good. In terms of local scenes, I can think of loads of the sort of ladies you're after, but no-one of any substance. Still, we have got MIA, and she's better than everyone else (apart from Diamanda, obviously).
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Old 08.21.2006, 02:45 PM   #3
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There's loads of British female singers, but they're all doing middle-of-the-road singer-songwriter stuff. I wouldn't say there's been any period when there's been a lot of good female fronted bands since the late eighties.
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Old 08.21.2006, 02:51 PM   #4
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I wondered if it had anything to do with America's obsession with political correctness and emancipation movements, but I don't believe that's the answer.

MIA is great.
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Old 08.21.2006, 02:55 PM   #5
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There's these bands: http://www.ladyfestnewcastle.co.uk/line_up/
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Old 08.21.2006, 04:21 PM   #6
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if you're counting past artists like the beatles and karen carpenter then don't forget the raincoats, the slits, siouxsie, x-ray specs, etc, etc

or... eh, julie andrews, vera lynn and charlotte church.
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Old 08.21.2006, 09:12 PM   #7
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what'sherface from fairport convention, marianne faithfull, shirley collins, there have been a number of notable mixed gender bands from the uk such as my bloody valentine, stereolab, the delgadoes, the pastels, the vaselines, belle & sebastian, the delgados, urusei yatsura, the marine girls, daisy chainsaw, pentangle, lush, vibracathedral, bolt thrower, throbbing gristle, where th' faith healers mixed? quickspace certainly were. there's also mira calix, neotropic, coleen, shystie...
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Old 08.21.2006, 09:17 PM   #8
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also, broadcast, beth gibbons, the one who sang with tricky, kaffe matthews
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Old 08.21.2006, 09:17 PM   #9
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PJ harvey is lovely, i am waiting for her to release another album.
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Old 08.21.2006, 11:28 PM   #10
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Anne Briggs, Shirley and Dolly Collins, the Watersons, Mellow Candle, Midwinter, Axe.
Look to UK folk and folk-rock, and you will find an enormous amount of talent from the ladies.
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Old 08.21.2006, 11:29 PM   #11
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yea lets have a smashed howl for marianne faithfull who's husband ended up giving her the most ironic name in history.... but i still love her and also mick even more so he can't be wrong no nothing beats the stones. wait the subject has gone walkabouts again in my mind all i know is "bolt thrower" from your list and i think they had one belter song (THE 4TH CRUSADE) I MAY STILL HAVE IT HAA WHAT Caps WAS THE SUBJECT CAPS again saaaa
her dad, not her husband. her husband was john dunbar.
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Old 08.22.2006, 12:57 AM   #12
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mick jagger might also ring a bell, but she wasn't married to him.
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Old 08.22.2006, 01:19 AM   #13
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What about Lush?

I don't think they're around anymore...their drummer killed himself, things like that tend to make bands break up...
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Old 08.22.2006, 01:57 AM   #14
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what'sherface from fairport convention, marianne faithfull, shirley collins, there have been a number of notable mixed gender bands from the uk such as my bloody valentine, stereolab, the delgadoes, the pastels, the vaselines, belle & sebastian, the delgados, urusei yatsura, the marine girls, daisy chainsaw, pentangle, lush, vibracathedral, bolt thrower, throbbing gristle, where th' faith healers mixed? quickspace certainly were. there's also mira calix, neotropic, coleen, shystie...

Mira Calix (Mrs. Autechre) is South African. She is pretty fantastic though.

Bolt Thrower? You slipped that one in there thinking nobody would notice?
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Old 08.22.2006, 04:01 AM   #15
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what'sherface from fairport convention, marianne faithfull, shirley collins, there have been a number of notable mixed gender bands from the uk such as my bloody valentine, stereolab, the delgadoes, the pastels, the vaselines, belle & sebastian, the delgados, urusei yatsura, the marine girls, daisy chainsaw, pentangle, lush, vibracathedral, bolt thrower, throbbing gristle, where th' faith healers mixed? quickspace certainly were. there's also mira calix, neotropic, coleen, shystie...
mira calix is not british,i think.
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Old 08.22.2006, 04:01 AM   #16
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I just said that. Have you got me on ignore again? Was it all the punk threads?
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Ops!Sorry spookie i hadn't read your post yet.
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Old 08.22.2006, 05:48 AM   #19
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Old 08.22.2006, 07:30 AM   #20
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Mira Calix (Mrs. Autechre) is South African. She is pretty fantastic though.

Bolt Thrower? You slipped that one in there thinking nobody would notice?


i know she's south african, but i was granting her honorary status because she owes her recognition to being in the UK
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