Sonic Youth = STALE - Page 3

A Thousand Threads · 11.06.2006, 05:26 AM

Do you mean the "On tour with the Neubauten" DVD ?

sonicl · 11.06.2006, 05:32 AM

No, from what I've heard that's a bit of a waste of time and money. There's one coming soon called "Palast Der Republik", which is a live show from two years ago. See here: www.neubauten.org/en-dvd-announce.html

A Thousand Threads · 11.06.2006, 05:36 AM

wow
Haven´t noticed that before
I was thinking about getting the "On tour with neubauten" dvd but 28 Euros is just to much for me and i also heard it´s not really worth the money.

Bought the "1/2 Mensch" DVD some time ago - now that is what i call
worth the money

ted_kennedy · 11.06.2006, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad

duh great idea. Let a band that has somehow managed to make the guitar sound amazing for more then a dozen albums and well into their 40's mess with the formula just to grab some radiohead-iconography.

This is just illogical to me. Of course they should mess with the formula. I hate bands that stick with the same formula (e.g. Oasis). I think thats why I like early SY cos u had SY EP, Sister, Evol, Whitey, DDN and all of them sounded VERY different. I recognise that the newer albums arent all the same, but they arent all that different either.

And I didnt want to get into this and turn this thread into a referendum on Kid A, but that album is DEFINITELY innovative. I remember the week it was coming out, every mainstream newspaper and mag was gearing up to make radiohead the next U2. Then the album came out and there was no chance of that. One of the most innovative records in modern times. I still listen to it.

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ted_kennedy

This is just illogical to me. Of course they should mess with the formula. I hate bands that stick with the same formula (e.g. Oasis). I think thats why I like early SY cos u had SY EP, Sister, Evol, Whitey, DDN and all of them sounded VERY different. I recognise that the newer albums arent all the same, but they arent all that different either.

And I didnt want to get into this and turn this thread into a referendum on Kid A, but that album is DEFINITELY innovative. I remember the week it was coming out, every mainstream newspaper and mag was gearing up to make radiohead the next U2. Then the album came out and there was no chance of that. One of the most innovative records in modern times. I still listen to it.

Yeah but could you explain a little better and more clearly what innovative means to you?Also,i don't recall Radiohead being castigated all that much from the media for Kid A.Sure the got some stick for it but getting some stick from the mainstream media for something doesn't make an album innovative in the slightest.

nicfit · 11.06.2006, 06:23 AM

a "suprising record" is different from an "innovative record". but as i said, i love kid-a too.

ZEROpumpkins · 11.06.2006, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit

sounds like a "let's make our Kid-A" process to me...but it could be interesting.

Holy crap i'm listening to Kid A right now.

nicfit · 11.06.2006, 06:30 AM

ha ha, this thread has a double discussion in it. maybe we should start a(another?) kid-a-related one...

sonicl · 11.06.2006, 06:57 AM

No, not a double discussion. There are three conversations going on here! I thought it would be a good idea to take my and A Thousand Thread's conversation about Einstuerzende Neubauten to the pm section though. And a jolly old chat we're having too!

nicfit · 11.06.2006, 08:36 AM

Right,i forgot to mention your "personal" discussion

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Ok, now i'll stop hijacking this thread at least till i'll have something interesting to add....apologies to the thread starter.

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 08:52 AM

This forum is a dump these days.No interesting debate,nothing.How very sad.

ted_kennedy · 11.06.2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

This forum is a dump these days.No interesting dabate,nothing.How very sad.

Start a thread then, you sonoffabitch.

Kid A wasnt castigated by the press that much because if they would have done that they would have looked 'passed it', uncool, not able to 'understand' or 'get' the album, etc. There were a lot of people that didnt 'get it' that pretended to.

To reiterate: if SY come out with another guitar album Im gonna stop listening to their new stuff altogether.

sonicl · 11.06.2006, 09:10 AM

I'm sure that will be duly noted by the band. Who will go on to record another guitar album anyway.

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ted_kennedy

Start a thread then, you sonoffabitch.

Kid A wasnt castigated by the press that much because if they would have done that they would have looked 'passed it', uncool, not able to 'understand' or 'get' the album, etc. There were a lot of people that didnt 'get it' that pretended to.

To reiterate: if SY come out with another guitar album Im gonna stop listening to their new stuff altogether.

Are you Thom Yorke,then?You seem to know something that i don't,extraneous twit.

ted_kennedy · 11.06.2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

Are you Thom Yorke,then?You seem to know something that i don't,extraneous twit.

Yeah, thats right, im thom Yorke. I spend my time posting on SY message boards with whinny 14 year olds that DONT APPRECIATE NAS AND WANNA LISTEN TO THE SAME SY ALBUM 50 TIMES, WITH DIFFERENT COVERS AND CD SLIPS.

FUCKING NUMBNUTS!

sonicl · 11.06.2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ted_kennedy

Yeah, thats right, im thom Yorke. I spend my time posting on SY message boards with whinny 14 year olds that DONT APPRECIATE NAS AND WANNA LISTEN TO THE SAME SY ALBUM 50 TIMES, WITH DIFFERENT COVERS AND CD SLIPS.

FUCKING NUMBNUTS!

Whinnying is what horses do, I think the word you're looking for is "whiny". And from what I can recall about the age demographic on this board, I don't think you'll find any 14 year olds posting here.

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 12:11 PM

Exactly.I'm rather outraged at being thought of as a 14 year old because i'm 12 and happy with it.

nicfit · 11.06.2006, 12:17 PM

I wonder why sonicl never bashed my english grammar...i fear his rage! Now i pay attention to commas, caps and stuff. You made me a better man. For real!

HaydenAsche · 11.06.2006, 12:23 PM

Sonic Youth hasn't put out the same record ever. They've been consistently getting shittier. I don't think you understand that Sonic Youth is a guitar noise rock band. Piss off, drunk.

GeneticKiss · 11.06.2006, 12:23 PM

Whatever

I'm gonna get my ass kicked for this one, but after having heard some of the SYR stuff I think that the real "problem" is that it's allowed them to polarize themselves...

Okay, think of it like this, artists often engage in solo projects becuz they want to express themselves in ways that wouldn't suit their "main" band...with the SYR series, SY basically have become their own side project, putting out noisy, experimental discs for the SYRs and keeping more mainstream-friendly music for their major label releases...

I'll post more later becuz I'm out of break time..

11.06.2006, 05:26 AM	#41
A Thousand Threads expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,000	Do you mean the "On tour with the Neubauten" DVD ?
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11.06.2006, 05:32 AM	#42
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	No, from what I've heard that's a bit of a waste of time and money. There's one coming soon called "Palast Der Republik", which is a live show from two years ago. See here: www.neubauten.org/en-dvd-announce.html
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11.06.2006, 05:36 AM	#43
A Thousand Threads expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,000	wow Haven´t noticed that before I was thinking about getting the "On tour with neubauten" dvd but 28 Euros is just to much for me and i also heard it´s not really worth the money. Bought the "1/2 Mensch" DVD some time ago - now that is what i call worth the money
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11.06.2006, 06:23 AM	#46
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	a "suprising record" is different from an "innovative record". but as i said, i love kid-a too. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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11.06.2006, 06:30 AM	#48
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	ha ha, this thread has a double discussion in it. maybe we should start a(another?) kid-a-related one... __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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11.06.2006, 06:57 AM	#49
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	No, not a double discussion. There are three conversations going on here! I thought it would be a good idea to take my and A Thousand Thread's conversation about Einstuerzende Neubauten to the pm section though. And a jolly old chat we're having too!
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11.06.2006, 08:36 AM	#50
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	Right,i forgot to mention your "personal" discussion . Ok, now i'll stop hijacking this thread at least till i'll have something interesting to add....apologies to the thread starter. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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11.06.2006, 08:52 AM	#51
porkmarras invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London - UK Posts: 14,313	This forum is a dump these days.No interesting debate,nothing.How very sad. __________________
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11.06.2006, 09:10 AM	#53
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	I'm sure that will be duly noted by the band. Who will go on to record another guitar album anyway.
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11.06.2006, 12:11 PM	#57
porkmarras invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London - UK Posts: 14,313	Exactly.I'm rather outraged at being thought of as a 14 year old because i'm 12 and happy with it. __________________
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11.06.2006, 12:17 PM	#58
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	I wonder why sonicl never bashed my english grammar...i fear his rage! Now i pay attention to commas, caps and stuff. You made me a better man. For real! __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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11.06.2006, 12:23 PM	#59
HaydenAsche invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,755	Sonic Youth hasn't put out the same record ever. They've been consistently getting shittier. I don't think you understand that Sonic Youth is a guitar noise rock band. Piss off, drunk. __________________ rip
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11.06.2006, 12:23 PM	#60
GeneticKiss expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,666	Whatever I'm gonna get my ass kicked for this one, but after having heard some of the SYR stuff I think that the real "problem" is that it's allowed them to polarize themselves... Okay, think of it like this, artists often engage in solo projects becuz they want to express themselves in ways that wouldn't suit their "main" band...with the SYR series, SY basically have become their own side project, putting out noisy, experimental discs for the SYRs and keeping more mainstream-friendly music for their major label releases... I'll post more later becuz I'm out of break time..
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