Frank Zappa, anyone?

viewtiful_alan · 08.01.2008, 05:10 PM

For being such a prolific and groundbreaking musician he certainly doesn't get much mention here or much of anywhere.
I have always been a fan (kind of grew up with him, liked the funny songs)
Freak out is one of my favorite albums of all time. I love how the album flows from somewhat hostile at the begining, to pop parody that functions as good music on its own, and tehn gets more and more sinister to explode in a noisy freak out at the end.

We're only in it for the money, shut up n' play yer guitar, Absolutley free, Chunga's revenge, Jazz from hell, HOT RATS... the list goes on

Any other fans?

Pookie · 08.01.2008, 05:11 PM

Doesn't get much mention? I've mentioned him several times in the TWAT thread.

viewtiful_alan · 08.01.2008, 05:13 PM

Haha I've never looked at that one... : /
eh I always say him when people talk about underrated artists.
hell zappa was just plain misunderstood, people remembered the one off novelties and forgot that the man was HIGHLY talented.
I always tell them to listen to the guitar solo on willie the pimp and to then get back to me.

atsonicpark · 08.01.2008, 05:14 PM

Underrated?

No offense but that's one of the most insane things anyone's ever said on this board.

Pookie · 08.01.2008, 05:15 PM

I'm not a fan so I'll leave your thread alone. Be warned that there are quite a few Zappa haters here besides me!

viewtiful_alan · 08.01.2008, 05:16 PM

Haha I can handle myself : p thanks for the warning XD

viewtiful_alan · 08.01.2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Underrated?

No offense but that's one of the most insane things anyone's ever said on this board.

he took prog themes and musicianship and made songs and melodies you could actually enjoy listening to and remember.
I don't think enough people give him enough credit for that.

atsonicpark · 08.01.2008, 05:19 PM

He's one of the most highly and wildly respected musicians ever. He has a rabid, RABID, INSANE fanbase, and everyone in the world knows who he is. Maybe he doesn't get respect for the "right" reasons or something... but he's certainly not underrated.

He's more well-known than, uh, Sonic Youth for example.

viewtiful_alan · 08.01.2008, 05:21 PM

I don't know I just rarely hear him mentioned.
People know who he is but not really what he does.
At least in my experience.

atsonicpark · 08.01.2008, 05:25 PM

I dunno, I just have a hard time thinking of him as underrated, especially when every hippy I know loves him and I hear him mentioned every other day by someone. I'm glad you like him, and I definitely respect him. I just think so many artists are underrated, and he's definitely... more respected and prolific than almost anyone I can think of.

I will say my favorite thing is definitely 200 Motels or Hotels or whatever it's called. My friend taped it off of some PPV channel and we watched it a few months ago and I thought it was brilliant.

viewtiful_alan · 08.01.2008, 05:27 PM

I've only heard teh soundtrack.
not sure why its not on dvd yet.

SuperCreep · 08.01.2008, 05:27 PM

I love Frank. His work with the Mothers and his solo stuff from '66-'75 is incredible (yes, I even like the Flo & Eddie phase too.) After that, he got a bit iffy for me for a while, with the exception of Joe's Garage. He did get back on the right track five years before his death with Jazz from Hell, so I forgive him for releasing a decade or so's worth of (mostly) shit.

My favorite has been Freak Out! for a really long time. I never get bored of that one.

greedrex · 08.01.2008, 05:30 PM

nah
thx

HECKLER SPRAY · 08.01.2008, 05:46 PM

I don' know all his work, but I like the few I know(Freak out !, Absolutely free, Hot Rats, Apostrophe,Sheik Yerbouty...).
He was one of the best guitarists of the XXth century.
He was unique.

atsonicpark · 08.01.2008, 05:48 PM

Worst 2 releases frank zappa ever made:

batreleaser · 08.01.2008, 05:53 PM

zappa is ridiculously OVERRATED, but he helped out with trout mask, so thats cool. has anyone read the article in the current mojo about zappa and van vliet's friendship/rivalry? only good article ive read in that shit nostalgia mag since the post punk/pil issue

atsonicpark · 08.01.2008, 05:54 PM

No I didn't read it, I'd like to. I've read plenty about how they loved/hated each other and how they used to go to Harry Partch performances together.

SuperCreep · 08.01.2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Worst 2 releases frank zappa ever made:

Haha, yeah. Talk about the apple falling really far from the tree. I went to see Zappa Plays Zappa two years ago and Dweezil was like a fucking statue the entire time. No stage presence whatsoever, and every time he did say something, he sounded like a moron. Luckily, Napoleon Murphy Brock and Bozzio where there, so I kinda forgot about him.

Has anyone seen that VH1 Jeopardy with Moon Unit and Dave Mustaine (I forget who the third contestant was.) Sheesh, she's a total ditz!

Everyneurotic · 08.01.2008, 06:24 PM

weasels ripped my flesh is a fucking masterpiece.

other than that, i have a hard time with him.

and no, he wasn't really an innovator, he knew how to filter his influences and work the people he liked.

atsonicpark · 08.01.2008, 06:28 PM

yeah weasels is by far my favorite.

08.01.2008, 05:10 PM	#1
viewtiful_alan invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 2,663	For being such a prolific and groundbreaking musician he certainly doesn't get much mention here or much of anywhere. I have always been a fan (kind of grew up with him, liked the funny songs) Freak out is one of my favorite albums of all time. I love how the album flows from somewhat hostile at the begining, to pop parody that functions as good music on its own, and tehn gets more and more sinister to explode in a noisy freak out at the end. We're only in it for the money, shut up n' play yer guitar, Absolutley free, Chunga's revenge, Jazz from hell, HOT RATS... the list goes on Any other fans? __________________
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Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	Doesn't get much mention? I've mentioned him several times in the TWAT thread.
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08.01.2008, 05:13 PM	#3
viewtiful_alan invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 2,663	Haha I've never looked at that one... : / eh I always say him when people talk about underrated artists. hell zappa was just plain misunderstood, people remembered the one off novelties and forgot that the man was HIGHLY talented. I always tell them to listen to the guitar solo on willie the pimp and to then get back to me. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:14 PM	#4
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Underrated? No offense but that's one of the most insane things anyone's ever said on this board. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:15 PM	#5
Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	I'm not a fan so I'll leave your thread alone. Be warned that there are quite a few Zappa haters here besides me!
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08.01.2008, 05:16 PM	#6
viewtiful_alan invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 2,663	Haha I can handle myself : p thanks for the warning XD __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:19 PM	#8
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	He's one of the most highly and wildly respected musicians ever. He has a rabid, RABID, INSANE fanbase, and everyone in the world knows who he is. Maybe he doesn't get respect for the "right" reasons or something... but he's certainly not underrated. He's more well-known than, uh, Sonic Youth for example. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:21 PM	#9
viewtiful_alan invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 2,663	I don't know I just rarely hear him mentioned. People know who he is but not really what he does. At least in my experience. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:25 PM	#10
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I dunno, I just have a hard time thinking of him as underrated, especially when every hippy I know loves him and I hear him mentioned every other day by someone. I'm glad you like him, and I definitely respect him. I just think so many artists are underrated, and he's definitely... more respected and prolific than almost anyone I can think of. I will say my favorite thing is definitely 200 Motels or Hotels or whatever it's called. My friend taped it off of some PPV channel and we watched it a few months ago and I thought it was brilliant. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:27 PM	#11
viewtiful_alan invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 2,663	I've only heard teh soundtrack. not sure why its not on dvd yet. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:27 PM	#12
SuperCreep expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: brooklyn Posts: 2,281	I love Frank. His work with the Mothers and his solo stuff from '66-'75 is incredible (yes, I even like the Flo & Eddie phase too.) After that, he got a bit iffy for me for a while, with the exception of Joe's Garage. He did get back on the right track five years before his death with Jazz from Hell, so I forgive him for releasing a decade or so's worth of (mostly) shit. My favorite has been Freak Out! for a really long time. I never get bored of that one. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:30 PM	#13
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	nah thx __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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08.01.2008, 05:46 PM	#14
HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	I don' know all his work, but I like the few I know(Freak out !, Absolutely free, Hot Rats, Apostrophe,Sheik Yerbouty...). He was one of the best guitarists of the XXth century. He was unique. __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:48 PM	#15
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Worst 2 releases frank zappa ever made: __________________
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08.01.2008, 05:53 PM	#16
batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	zappa is ridiculously OVERRATED, but he helped out with trout mask, so thats cool. has anyone read the article in the current mojo about zappa and van vliet's friendship/rivalry? only good article ive read in that shit nostalgia mag since the post punk/pil issue __________________ listen to pink reason
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08.01.2008, 05:54 PM	#17
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	No I didn't read it, I'd like to. I've read plenty about how they loved/hated each other and how they used to go to Harry Partch performances together. __________________
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	weasels ripped my flesh is a fucking masterpiece. other than that, i have a hard time with him. and no, he wasn't really an innovator, he knew how to filter his influences and work the people he liked. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	yeah weasels is by far my favorite. __________________
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