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Old 12.18.2014, 05:39 PM   #18481
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i think it was about not how people talked but about how oh-so-clever wannabes wanted to talk, i.e., wish fulfillment fantasies for the masses.

the best thing about pulp fiction was definitely the dialogue, the whole hilarious discussion about the royale with cheese, etc., which addressed certain gen-x slacker (overeducated, underemployed, media-conscious, member of the poverty jet-set) aspirations of clever selves. (just like millenials all wanna be great at "sarcasm.")

and in that it was pretty brilliant and a cultural landmark, sort of in the way easy rider was one for the baby boomers (sell a bunch of coke to phil spector and ride a harley through 'merica).

but yes, the schtick wears thin and death proof was his fucking low point. (though i also hated the overwrought kill bills just as much, but in a different way-- because while kill bill was irritating, death proof was just fucking lazy)
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Easy Rider was an intelligent reflection on things, Tarantino's just a reflection of them. His films are sharp, snappy, but what isn't these days? I just wish he'd fuck off and stop making films at this point.
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Old 12.18.2014, 05:45 PM   #18482
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Easy Rider sucks. It is a boring movie. It may have struck a chord with people at the time it was released but it is not a good film. It does not stand alone a a work of art.
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Old 12.18.2014, 06:15 PM   #18483
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Easy Rider sucks. It is a boring movie. It may have struck a chord with people at the time it was released but it is not a good film. It does not stand alone a a work of art.

 
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Old 12.18.2014, 06:26 PM   #18484
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Easy Rider was an intelligent reflection on things, Tarantino's just a reflection of them. His films are sharp, snappy, but what isn't these days? I just wish he'd fuck off and stop making films at this point.
Thats the thing, Tarantino flicks arent about substance, their just what they are. I agree with you though, 90s Tarantino flicks were edgy, cutting, entertaining views of street and crime culture. Who even knows what his 2000s shit is about?
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Old 12.19.2014, 02:58 AM   #18485
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Easy Rider was an intelligent reflection on things, Tarantino's just a reflection of them. His films are sharp, snappy, but what isn't these days? I just wish he'd fuck off and stop making films at this point.

Not much longer now. What is it 2 more films and he said he's retiring?
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Old 12.19.2014, 05:01 AM   #18486
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I can only hope, although he's gone back on his promises before. I've given up on him completely though, so even if he doesn't retire I just won't bother watching what he does. Although then I won't have anything to moan about.
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Old 12.19.2014, 08:06 AM   #18487
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The Hateful Eight (filming)

Kill Bill: Vol. 3 (character The Bride - as Q) (announced)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000233/

So maybe "two more and out" rumor is accurate? I dunno. Anyway, he promised film criticism and novels will come after he "retires," so I'm sure we won't miss his friendly face.

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Re: truly "indie." Has anyone ever come across a really good student/amateur video on youtube or internet archive or someplace like that?
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Old 12.19.2014, 01:54 PM   #18488
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Re: truly "indie." Has anyone ever come across a really good student/amateur video on youtube or internet archive or someplace like that?

This is the odd thing. Whilst I may not be a mastermind of current movie knowledge I can't think of anything that has used the internet and youtube to the levels it could be used. I'm sure there's been some. But good ones? Not the foggiest.
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Old 12.19.2014, 02:08 PM   #18489
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making a good film is a lot harder than just pointing a camera at people talking.
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making a good film is a lot harder than just pointing a camera at people talking.

True.
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Well, depends what they're talking about. Also, do they have clothes on?

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Because it is hard to make a movie, I try to be very generous. I'll look through no-budget things on youtube and every year I go to a small local filmfest. Pretty much everything is bad and I've never seen a flicker of genuine talent, no matter how hard I squint.

But there MUST be some kid who came up with a good idea and shot it in the backyard, and the film is now one of the more brilliant things on youtube. Sadly, finding the fucking thing will be impossible.
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Old 12.19.2014, 03:06 PM   #18492
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Well, depends what they're talking about. Also, do they have clothes on?


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making a good film is a lot harder than just pointing a camera at people talking.

even if it's just people talking (e.g. my dinner with andre) it's a lot harder than "just pointing a camera" for sure.

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anyway, the internet is best suited for short form. people have made some reasonably good things, like "the guild", or "dr horrible", and those have been professional, and then you have stuff like house of cards on netflix.

of course it takes lots of money which is why netflix is the only one who has made it work in such a scale.
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Old 12.19.2014, 03:47 PM   #18493
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I agree with evol here.. the internet used to be a great medium to find top shelf local and DYI art but now? Its so flooded with shite that its not worth bothering... I miss early 2000s era when you could google and find interesting and obscure things of value
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8.5/10

Would give it a 9 if I didn't think most secondary actors played better than Nicholson.
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Rewatched The Grand Budapest Hotel on DVD. It's even better the second time around. My favorite movie of the year!
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i watched Barfly with Mickey Rourke and Faye Dunaway last night.
great movie must have been low budget yet it works.
so much hope for broke alcoholic writers (or artists) in that film.

you can check it out for free on youtube
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