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Old 11.03.2007, 01:09 AM   #1
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So i'm wondering, if yer ever asked who's your fav poet, who would honestly say thurston moore? am i the only one?
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Old 11.03.2007, 01:11 AM   #2
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He is good with playing with words. But in my opinion I would say Ginsberg, and Shakespeare.
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Old 11.03.2007, 01:13 AM   #3
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i just honestly think we need more of the beats in this world. more people like thurston, who experiment with words and have no boundaries.
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Old 11.03.2007, 01:16 AM   #4
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Well that is true. But any poet can be easily say they are not conforming to the same regulations as many. Just like other arts, it is all subjective.
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Old 11.03.2007, 01:38 AM   #5
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I had to read a ton of poetry when I was at school. Some of it (particularly the metaphysical) could easily have turned me of the form for life. I was quite taken with Robert Browning though.
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Old 11.03.2007, 01:55 AM   #6
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Old 11.03.2007, 07:52 PM   #14
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i just honestly think we need more of the beats in this world. more people like thurston, who experiment with words and have no boundaries.
you should then read anything in the american modernist/post-war & postmodern tradition since pound & williams i.e. zukofsky, oppen, thru to creeley and olson then l=a=n=g=u=a=g=e guys like larry eigner and then maybe look at susan howe for a true post-avant language based poetics.
thurston is a truly awful poet - amazing songwriter/musician, awful poet.
post-beat is a genre that should be left alone to die.
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Old 11.03.2007, 07:55 PM   #15
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Old 11.03.2007, 08:03 PM   #16
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Robert Frost or Poe, for me. T-bone blows at poetry, to be frank.
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Old 11.03.2007, 08:45 PM   #17
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you should then read anything in the american modernist/post-war & postmodern tradition since pound & williams i.e. zukofsky, oppen, thru to creeley and olson then l=a=n=g=u=a=g=e guys like larry eigner and then maybe look at susan howe for a true post-avant language based poetics.
thurston is a truly awful poet - amazing songwriter/musician, awful poet.
post-beat is a genre that should be left alone to die.

i disagree... with the thurston being an awful poet. i don't know how to back that up, but well, imo i think he's great. i dont know why...
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Old 11.03.2007, 09:09 PM   #18
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See 'small flowers crack concrete' as evidence. The title was good, but little else.
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Old 11.04.2007, 12:31 AM   #19
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Thurston's "poetry" seems more like someone consciously trying to write poetry, and it sounds really really contrived. I love the man with all my heart, but it doesn't work. He should stick to writing lyrics, not poems and prose (yeh, there is a difference).

Shit that matters:
Ginsberg
Kerouac
Peter Orlovsky
Gregory Corso
Lawrence Ferlinghetti
(err, the entire Howls, Raps and Roars box set... it's 4 cds of beat poets and shit... great stuff)
Bukowski
Henry Rollins (more prose... but whatever)
Michael Ondaatje (same as Rollins... I HIGHLY recommend The Collected Works of Billy the Kid and Coming Through Slaughter)
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So i'm wondering, if yer ever asked who's your fav poet, who would honestly say thurston moore? am i the only one?

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