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Old 05.15.2018, 10:04 PM   #3841
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From The Huffington Post:

CIA TORTURER BREAKS DEMS
Game Over: Gina Haspel On Track To Be Confirmed As CIA Director

Democrats have lost the debate over torture after two Democratic senators said they plan to back Haspel’s confirmation.

More (just in case you're a wuss who equivalences the HP to Fox News):
https://news.google.com/gn/news/stor...us&hl=en&gl=US
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The best move for Iran now would be to ditch Khamenei's bullcrap about "pulling out too" (let Rouhani deal with that guy) and send Zarif to Brussels, London, Paris, Berlin and Beijing to present a united (and smiling!) front: as with the Climate Change agreement (actually, the JCPOA is better than that one), everybody but the U.S. sticks with the deal and Trump can go fuck himself while playing Bibi's CDs.

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Europe, Iran say push to save nuclear deal off to good start

BRUSSELS (AP) — Major European powers and Tehran committed Tuesday to keep working together to save the Iran nuclear deal despite U.S. President Donald Trump's determination to kill it off. European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini and the foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany said after talks with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif that salvage efforts focused on economic, business and banking issues could produce "practical solutions in the next few weeks"
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Old 05.15.2018, 11:58 PM   #3843
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Cool! Hey, we just “unvoted” our shithead Repub County Comissioner!
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Old 05.16.2018, 12:13 AM   #3844
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Cool! Hey, we just “unvoted” our shithead Repub County Comissioner!

To the fiery pits with that indecent offal.
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To the fiery pits with that indecent offal.

he'll prolly try to get a job with trump, but then we can get them all the fuck gone in 2o2o
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Old 05.16.2018, 05:42 PM   #3847
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By all accounts today was yet another disastrous day for Team Trump, but The Dems don't seem to know this. Or am I just looking at the wrong places?

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING DEMS???
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Russia might be smarter than anyone thought!!!

A) NO evidence of collusion between Russia and Trump campaign.

B) IF collusion did occur, IT’s NOT ILLEGAL

C) Special Counsels are appointed to persu KNOWN CRIMES and NOT to go seeking after “possible” crimes......technically, seeking crimes is a violation of Special Counsel laws.

......so much freaking wasted time!
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I'm trying to square that CNN link with the stuff below it. Sorry....not seeing it.

"Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, serving as Acting Attorney General due to the recusal of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, authorized Mueller to investigate and prosecute "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump," as well as "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation" and any other matters within the scope of 28 CFR 600.4 – Jurisdiction.["

You cannot say that there is no evidence of collusion yet, because the fucking report isn't finished, is it?

Collusion with a foreign adversary to affect the election isn't illegal? Kill me now.

How can Mueller KNOW all this when he is starting an INVESTIGATION?

Fuck me.
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So you're basically concluding that it's all A-OK now for Trump because despite any crimes committed he's above the law (and this is only if we take Giuliani at his credibility-shot word). Regardless of whether Trump will be indicted while in office, if the investigation is allowed to finish Mueller will present his final report to Congress. The House is then supposed to do its duty and draft the respective articles of impeachment, and after that a supermajority of the Senate is required to convict based on the articles.

Phrasing the link the way you did is not only the dumbest thing you've posted yet, but the most amoral.
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you know it’s not a witch hunt, right? 17 indictments and 5 guilty pleas is not nothing

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-n...tion-one-year/

and yeah it would be up to the spineless congress to impeach or not
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Lumping all Trump supporters together with the Klan, Jim Crow Dixiecrats, George Wallace and FDR (all Democrats, by the way) is as uncalled for as lumping all Socialists together with Stalinists, or lumping all Democrats together with the Klan, Jim Crow Dixiecrats, George Wallace and FDR.
it says trump, not the supporters

the supporters come in different stripes and the huckster knows how to attract all those stripes

kkk and dixiecrats included

as well as innumerable suckers

and since we’re on to whataboutisms: not all george wallace supporters were segregationists i’m sure (they maybe just liked his stance on business and looked the other way on the rest).

not all this are that

therefore: nothing
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The latest message from Demand Progress regarding Net Neutrality Title II:

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WE DID IT! Thanks to your relentless activism, Senators Lisa Murkowski and John Kennedy have just joined Susan Collins and the entire Senate Democratic caucus and voted to overturn the FCC and save net neutrality!

They said it was a lost cause. They said that Big Cable's pockets were too deep and their lobbyists were too powerful. But you proved them wrong.

This is not over yet. Now the battle moves to the House of Representatives—where we have an even bigger fight. But with Republicans facing a tough midterm election and polls showing that 86% of voters support net neutrality, we can win.¹

Will you chip in $5 to continue the fight to save net neutrality?

The battle in the House is going to take several more months. By making a regular monthly donation, you will sustain this urgent campaign all the way through, building on today's massive victory.

The Senate's vote sent a strong message to Big Cable, Ajit Pai, and the White House—we aren't going to roll over and let them destroy the free and open internet.

And make no mistake, it took a lot of hard work on the part of our members to get to this point. When the FCC first proposed gutting net neutrality, 21 million people submitted comments, and the vast majority opposed the repeal. We helped drive millions of emails and phone calls to Congress. We staged rallies at their offices as recently as Monday.

This was how we won over the Senate. We got all 49 Senate Democrats to stand united, which is never a sure thing. And we got three Senate Republicans to join us, which is a huge accomplishment.

Now it’s on to the House. And while we only needed a few Republicans in the Senate to win, we need 24 in the House. That means organizing in many more places across America—with only a few months to pull it off.²

But there's too much at stake to stop now. If we lose, mega-corporations such as Verizon and Time Warner will be able to throttle, and worse, censor the internet at will, and we just cannot let that happen.

This is the fight of our lives. We've won the first vote—now it's time to win the whole thing. Will you commit to fighting with us until the end?

Yes, I'll chip in $5 to help save net neutrality.

Thanks for standing with us.

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By all accounts today was yet another disastrous day for Team Trump, but The Dems don't seem to know this. Or am I just looking at the wrong places?

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING DEMS???

I'm tellin' y'all's, Michael Avenatti is the only person out there who's refuting Trump's horseshit rationally, point-by-point.
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entire Rethug Senate, plus

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), Mark Warner (D-Va.), Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.)

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So you're basically concluding that it's all A-OK now for Trump because despite any crimes committed he's above the law (and this is only if we take Giuliani at his credibility-shot word). Regardless of whether Trump will be indicted while in office, if the investigation is allowed to finish Mueller will present his final report to Congress. The House is then supposed to do its duty and draft the respective articles of impeachment, and after that a supermajority of the Senate is required to convict based on the articles.

Phrasing the link the way you did is not only the dumbest thing you've posted yet, but the most amoral.

Not once did I say or imply or say that Trump is above the law.


After the

informant

wire tapping

report the Clinton’s created and gave to the FBI

There is Nothing-ZERO-No evidence that the Trump campaign
colluded with the Russians.


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C) Special Counsels are appointed to persu KNOWN CRIMES and NOT to go seeking after “possible” crimes......technically, seeking crimes is a violation of Special Counsel laws.

......so much freaking wasted time!


We have a Judge in Virginia cracking the judicial whip at the Department Of Justice demanding to know what the DOJ is up to because they are soooooo outside the scope of what they are authorized to investigate......me, myself and I consider what they are doing a Witch Hunt.

So two plus years and millions later and Muller is growing tired of being worked over by the judicial whip......the investigation is dead in the water and Muller is so desperate, his team makes contact with Rudy Giuliani to confirm that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

Didn’t Bill Clinton teach us that 20 years ago?

I could be 100% wrong, but I believe President Donald Trump will not be impeached and he will easily win re-election.

While I understand some in Congress are saying they have evidence that Russia wanted Trump to win over Hillary......and possibly Russia colluded with someone to help this happen:

A) you haven’t seen this evidence.

B) as I stated above, Nothing-ZERO-No evidence that the Trump campaign colluded.
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of course we haven’t seen this evidence, this is why there’s an investigation— to find out if there’s any

because there are clear suspicions

and unlike other people in this thread i’m not affirming apriori that there’s any— i’m just saying let the investigation proceed and then we’ll see.

if at the end they find nothing then they find nothing.

but let’s not anybody count their chickens yet cuz that’s foolish.
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For the upteenth time, the investigation is continuing, and Mueller has said nothing, so how the fuck do we KNOW that there is no evidence?

We are just going to keep doing this over and over again, aren't we?
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@skuj —

this has been repeated to death lately— in this era of total partisanship people don’t just feel entitled to their opinions: they feel entitled to their own facts.

it’s not just bytor here—unless i’m misreading soupnazi, he’s categorically saying trump is positively a criminal who will be found guilty and the house is “supposed to do its duty,” as if this was a foregone conclusion and not a big unknown in the process of being investigated.

every partisan invents their own facts.

staying sane in this climate is hard as fuck.
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