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Old 07.22.2007, 08:47 AM   #41
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What I found so appealing about DKs was their great music, but it was tinged with REALLY dark (very, very funny) humour, and intelligence. At a time when a lot of punk sounded completely witless, dumb and just plain bad, they stood out and above just about everybody else. Plastic Surgery Disasters (their masterpiece) contained all the elements that made them so great.

Frankenchrist contained none of these elements. I was a massive fan at the time, but I couldn't remember a single song on this album when I started writing this. I just had a look on Amazon to remind myself.

The dark humour had turned into horrible novelty songs. The music had become turgid, cliched punk-by-numbers. And the targets of Jello's rage were soft and pointless(MTV?, "jocks"?, for fuck's sake).
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Old 07.22.2007, 09:22 AM   #42
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i actually know a bunch of people who think frankenchrist is their best, which surprises me..
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Old 07.22.2007, 10:04 AM   #43
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when did dead kennedys stink?

Actually I'm a big DK fan, and my listing Misfits and DK, you'll notice, even though perhaps I should have clarifyied my point, that both of these bands reunited without thier original singer. Sure this DK version (not sure if they are still active) have not recorded any new material under the name (unlike Misfits), but DK reuniting in the first place, sans Jello, its just atrocious.
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Old 07.23.2007, 03:51 AM   #48
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I think Kill 'Em All is significantly better than Master of Puppets, and And Justice For All is the "ok" one of your list. But yeah, once they consciously started trying to sell records and have mass appeal they went to shit, which is too bad because they had already made it on their own terms.

Up until the death of Cliff Burton, Metallica were mostly killer and rarely filler. And Justice For All falls prey of being too 'technical', but it still remains a good record and the last good one that Metallica produced (St. Anger has its momentS but it is mostly shit).
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Old 07.23.2007, 10:23 AM   #52
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dark angel, darkness descends is like the best thrash album ever but then you hear time does not heal and it's like, what the fuck?

dinosaur jr, everything until hand it over went from good to amazing, but then the beyond, they just went "ohh, let's preten we're dinosaur jr"...a parody of themselves, as you intellectuals say.

britney spears
christina aguilera

sepultura
corrosion of conformity
guns n' roses
michelle branch
deftones
pretty much any "nu metal" band that wasn't awful to begin with.
dropkick murphys (they were't spectacular, they were descent, but ever since like their second album...)
lamb of god
meshuggah
dillinger escape plan
norma jean
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Old 07.23.2007, 10:24 AM   #53
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Old 07.23.2007, 10:30 AM   #54
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oh definitely!

also chimaira, their first album, pass out of existance, is like the best grinding groove metal with fucked up electronics album ever and then they turned into another generic melodic death metal band trying to be at the gates, they even now disown the album. unbelieveable.

speaking of at the gates, the haunted; holy shit do they reek now!!!

slayer, they are not that bad but they are not that fantastic, i mean on record.

arch enemy, even though they never "ruled" they were quite good at what they did, then turned into shit.

you can't forget napalm death in this list.
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Old 07.23.2007, 10:35 AM   #55
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haha man i totally forgot dillinger. they just SUCK now.

i disagree with deftones though... i mean, self-titled was awful, but saturday night wrist was good... i mean, they're not writing around the fur/white pony-worthy stuff but they don't necassarily stink now...

i'm also going to add bad religion to this list...
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Old 07.23.2007, 10:45 AM   #56
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Old 07.23.2007, 11:06 AM   #57
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dark angel, darkness descends is like the best thrash album ever but then you hear time does not heal and it's like, what the fuck?

dinosaur jr, everything until hand it over went from good to amazing, but then the beyond, they just went "ohh, let's preten we're dinosaur jr"...a parody of themselves, as you intellectuals say.

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christina aguilera

sepultura
corrosion of conformity
guns n' roses
michelle branch
deftones
pretty much any "nu metal" band that wasn't awful to begin with.
dropkick murphys (they were't spectacular, they were descent, but ever since like their second album...)
lamb of god
meshuggah
dillinger escape plan
norma jean
in flames

Speaking of heavy stuff like that, I'd also these ones to the list:

The Gathering
Anathema
Tiamat
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Old 07.23.2007, 11:20 AM   #58
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the gathering, home kinda sucks, but before that, wow! i still have faith in them to come out with another genre-defying album.

anathema? i have to disagree, a natural disaster is just amazing, sure it's not heavy but it has great songs.

i've heard a lot about tiamat but never heard them.

let's throw in samael, their techno-goth stuff is mostly generic, can't compare them to the early stuff.

cephalic carnage too, the minute they started making records, they went to shit.
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Old 07.23.2007, 12:23 PM   #59
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the gathering,
I don't know them really, only that they apparently live not so far from me. But since it's not my kind of music really I can't commment on it and I only know like three songs of them. Anyway, thought you might like to know that the singer last month decided to leave the band, so if you're looking for a new job, apply here: http://www.cyclingcolours.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6536
I think she was already not the original singer wasn't she? Perhaps that's the reason you only like the early stuff. In that case it may be good news

edit: this is what she's doing now: http://www.aguadeannique.com/ Sounds a lot like Skin to me.
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Old 07.23.2007, 12:27 PM   #60
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I agree with the Liz Phair mentions.

I don' t understand why people are listing dinosaur jr., though.
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