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Old 09.24.2020, 09:35 AM   #21
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Old 09.27.2020, 03:45 AM   #22
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Omigawd!

I was hoping that President Trump would appoint Judge Barbara Lagoa to fill Justice Ginsberg's seat on the US Supreme Court, yet he chose Judge Amy Coney Barrett.

I can only hope his judgement concerning judges is superior to my own.

They're both Catholics (as am I), so there can't be that much of a difference between them, now, can there?

I certainly hope there isn't!
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Old 09.27.2020, 09:05 AM   #23
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Robert, are your concerns about future decisions for decades to come or her ability to be confirmed before the election?

For those who missed it, Joe Biden was on record in 2016 DEMANDING that the Senate vote on a presidential nomination to the Supreme Court, even in an election year!

“The Constitution clearly states that the President ‘shall’ -not may- ‘shall’ nominate someone to the Supreme Court when there’s a vacancy. That includes the Senate consulting...but voting.

For 17 years I was the chairman or ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which oversees nominations to the Supreme Court. And every nominee, including Justice Kennedy, in an election year, got an up or down vote by the Senate.

Not much of the time

Not most of the time

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME

And deciding in advance before naming a nominee that their gonna turn their backs, that’s not an option that the Constitution leaves open.

For the sake of the country we all love, we all have to do our job, including the US Senate.”
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Old 09.27.2020, 09:33 AM   #24
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Robert, are your concerns about future decisions for decades to come or her ability to be confirmed before the election?

For those who missed it, Joe Biden was on record in 2016 DEMANDING that the Senate vote on a presidential nomination to the Supreme Court, even in an election year!

“The Constitution clearly states that the President ‘shall’ -not may- ‘shall’ nominate someone to the Supreme Court when there’s a vacancy. That includes the Senate consulting...but voting.

For 17 years I was the chairman or ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which oversees nominations to the Supreme Court. And every nominee, including Justice Kennedy, in an election year, got an up or down vote by the Senate.

Not much of the time

Not most of the time

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME

And deciding in advance before naming a nominee that their gonna turn their backs, that’s not an option that the Constitution leaves open.

For the sake of the country we all love, we all have to do our job, including the US Senate.”

I have no concern whatsoever as to her ability to be confirmed prior to the election. She will be confirmed, and, then, the American people will re-elect the President.

***

I had a problem with the Senate's refusal to advise/consent upon President Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland, largely due to the precedent that such a refusal would set. And, now, here we are, with the Democrats and the Republicans arguing the opposite position from that which they took just four years ago. The two political parties may think nobody is noticing, even as EVERYBODY is noticing.

The truth is, I support Biden's 2016 position now, just as I supported it four years ago. The Republicans are the hypocrites on this one, not the Democrats. The Republicans set a VERY poor precedent four years ago.

Yet, that's not my problem with Judge Barrett. I'll explain in a later post after I've had a chance to gather some facts.
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Old 09.27.2020, 09:43 AM   #25
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Christ we just have a few straight-up Trump supporters on this site now.
The fuck.
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Old 09.27.2020, 09:55 AM   #26
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Christ we just have a few straight-up Trump supporters on this site now.
The fuck.

You've known that for years now. Why state the obvious just now?
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Old 09.27.2020, 10:53 AM   #27
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I have no concern whatsoever as to her ability to be confirmed prior to the election. She will be confirmed, and, then, the American people will re-elect the President.

Not only do I anticipate re-election, I see him outright winning:

Michigan
Minnesota (someone will need to check on Savage Clone)
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin

Picking up two Senate seats and possibly having a new Speaker : )

Sadly, the demonstrating and rioting will continue until Election Day, escalate like nothing we’ve ever seen in the days/weeks/months following the outcome we foresee......but what a grand and glorious day that will be!
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Old 09.27.2020, 11:12 AM   #28
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Christ we just have a few straight-up Trump supporters on this site now.
The fuck.
how ridiculous are they though? i say 10/10
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Old 09.27.2020, 12:35 PM   #29
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Yeah dude...pretty nuts if you ask me. But I mean...like...I dunno....something something be open minded? But yeah....like....I can see some shallow PJ fans being Trump supporters, but seeing some hardcore Pearl Jam fans surprised to see how they're against Trump is also funny to see....like bruh....Eddie is crazily against guns...how did you not know that?
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Old 09.27.2020, 02:33 PM   #30
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Lindsey Graham Announces That Confirmation Hearings for Amy Coney Barrett Are Set to Begin October 12
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The truth is, I support Biden's 2016 position now, just as I supported it four years ago. The Republicans are the hypocrites on this one, not the Democrats. The Republicans set a VERY poor precedent four years ago.

What do you know?

As mentioned earlier - to delay a nomination for almost an entire year, then try to rush through one in six weeks is blatantly absurd, and surely even Bytor can notice the inconsistency.
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say what? political inconsistency regardless of party? I never would have guessed
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Yeah dude...pretty nuts if you ask me. But I mean...like...I dunno....something something be open minded?
you can be open minded with someone who has a legitimate argument, not with a faithful sycophant who will twist themselves into a pretzel to justify anything and everything their master orders up.

me at this point i’ve started to take the simplified categorical position of FUCK’EM because shit has crossed the line long long long ago. so the time for discussion is long over ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

and to pretend otherwise is, frankly, bullshit. sort of like having a civilized conversation with your attempted murderer while he attempts to murder you.

so... nah. fuck’em.
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On the Democrats' so-called "political inconsistency": this is just their completely justified open attempt at "Oh yeah? Fuck YOU now, McConnell!" payback. The BIG difference is they don't control the Senate. Which is why we're all fucked. (Actually, even if they did control the Senate we'd still be fucked because of this. So now not only do we need a Democratic tsunami, which is hard enough, but we need it on election night. Fuck, fuck, and fuck.)
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you can be open minded with someone who has a legitimate argument, not with a faithful sycophant who will twist themselves into a pretzel to justify anything and everything their master orders up.

me at this point i’ve started to take the simplified categorical position of FUCK’EM because shit has crossed the line long long long ago. so the time for discussion is long over ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

and to pretend otherwise is, frankly, bullshit. sort of like having a civilized conversation with your attempted murderer while he attempts to murder you.

so... nah. fuck’em.


Yeah, there’s zero benefit to being open minded to people who are supportive of this president. I’m not going to “Two Sides” that shit. There’s being against hateful, criminal behavior, and not being against it, and those who aren’t against it might as well be flat-earthers for all the time or consideration I’m going to give their fucked views.

Maybe that means I’m closed minded for not being open minded to closed-minded people, but I don’t care
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