[Genteel Death]

If Robert Hampson of Loop/Main likes him, who am I to disagree? He's one of those people I meant to check out ever since I saw an album of Hank Williams covers by that guy from The The in some record shop many moons ago. I didn't pick it up because I'm not much of a fan of The The or the majority of records that consist entirely of covers, so your recommendations are welcome.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by tesla69

and whats wrong with that?

It's a southern/redneck thing. Doesn't matter though because Hank still wrote good tunes....

something like that?

I was confused as well.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by tesla69

and whats wrong with that?

Well, I think we've already established that I'm a huge fan of Hank, so it doesn't bother me enormously. I was trying to point out that ni'k was pushing buttons which, rightly or wrongly, are there in the stereotype of country for good reason. The other side of that stereotype is the one that swa mentioned - 'first rock star' type bollocks. I personally tend not to care about a person's perception in the rock pantheon, but it's definitely there. The point with Hank, for me, is that he's got an astonishing economy as a writer and managed to write something like two bad songs (Fly trouble and Hey good lookin'), whereas most bands manage maybe 4 genuinely brilliant songs in their lifetime. Hank's over and above everyone else for me because unlike anyone else in the pantheon of all-time greats, there's a minimum of cack. I mean, Abba Gold is astonishing, certainly, but they still also wrote Hey Hey Helen.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

If Robert Hampson of Loop/Main likes him, who am I to disagree? He's one of those people I meant to check out ever since I saw an album of Hank Williams covers by that guy from The The in some record shop many moons ago. I didn't pick it up because I'm not much of a fan of The The or the majority of records that consist entirely of covers, so your recommendations are welcome.

You should be able to get one of those service station compilations for a couple of quid. Anywhere you dip your toes should be amazing. Maybe try a Luke the Drifter compilation, or there's a nice mix of stuff on Lost Highway if you want something specific.

[Glice]

I should mention that in principle there's everything wrong with womanisers and rock and roll is pretty disgusting in its valorisation of some horrendous people. Hank's by no means the worst in this but I don't think we should exonerate people just solely because their music's great. I tend to think the reason women don't get involved in rock is partly because the crowd buy into the 'rock myth' thing so as to exonerate themselves of being cunts. Y'know, ladies do unfortunately get raped a lot of the time in rock crowds, and the mythology surrounding it is partly to blame.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Glice

I should mention that in principle there's everything wrong with womanisers and rock and roll is pretty disgusting in its valorisation of some horrendous people. Hank's by no means the worst in this but I don't think we should exonerate people just solely because their music's great. I tend to think the reason women don't get involved in rock is partly because the crowd buy into the 'rock myth' thing so as to exonerate themselves of being cunts. Y'know, ladies do unfortunately get raped a lot of the time in rock crowds, and the mythology surrounding it is partly to blame.

If this is the case, why did you even bring it up to begin with?

And ladies get raped in all crowds.

There are reasons as to why it seems to be (and possibly even is...) more common in the rock universe.

[Glice]

Sorry, can you actually read or are you just a complete fucktard?

[ann ashtray]

Sorry, I was actually responding to two of your above posts.

You say one thing really doesn't matter, because it doesn't take away from the fact that Hank was brilliant song writer...then still, you said it anyways.

And even more idiotic, you said it as if it's some common southern thing.

[kinn]

this is what he does now.

being contrarian for the sake of some psychotic insistence on his own stupid "opinion". he doesn't really have one, it's just some extreme individualism trip crap.

he will go on and on, he won't stop. it's not like it could ever be less redundant as everything else he says.

anyway. i'm just waiting for the next meltdown. know it can't be far off. the pressure has to be close to boiling at this point. he wants to save face with this "act like i can argue down everyone" crap. swagate 11(?lostcount) can't be far off.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by kinn

this is what he does now.

being contrarian for the sake of some psychotic insistence on his own stupid "opinion". he doesn't really have one, it's just some extreme individualism trip crap.

he will go on and on, he won't stop. it's not like it could ever be less redundant as everything else he says.

anyway. i'm just waiting for the next meltdown. know it can't be far off. the pressure has to be close to boiling at this point. he wants to save face with this "act like i can argue down everyone" crap. swagate 11(?lostcount) can't be far off.

Fuck off....please. Unless of course you have something valid to say.

[kinn]

Originally Posted by kinn

this is what he does now.

being contrarian for the sake of some psychotic insistence on his own stupid "opinion". he doesn't really have one, it's just some extreme individualism trip crap.

he will go on and on, he won't stop. it's not like it could ever be less redundant as everything else he says.

anyway. i'm just waiting for the next meltdown. know it can't be far off. the pressure has to be close to boiling at this point. he wants to save face with this "act like i can argue down everyone" crap. swagate 11(?lostcount) can't be far off.

 

[Glice]

Right, well, we've got two sides of a coin here. Though ni'k isn't quite a fuckwit.

THE POINT I AM MAKING is necessarily contradictory; I am ASKING YOU THE INTERNET how you deal with these two opposing views present in one issue. The two views (to recapitulate) are: 1) "Hey, isn't Hank great? Sure heckity I likes me some Hank" and 2) "Boy howdy, it's a shame that musicians are sometimes shit, sure heckity ain't it?" and the OVERALL question isn't one of trying to reconcile the two points but how to negotiate the tension.

I'm sorry that you, ni'k, seem to misunderstand me. Swa can fuck off because he's a retard.

Edit: I may have mis-read ni'k's post.

[kinn]

Originally Posted by Glice

Right, well, we've got two sides of a coin here. Though ni'k isn't quite a fuckwit.

THE POINT I AM MAKING is necessarily contradictory; I am ASKING YOU THE INTERNET how you deal with these two opposing views present in one issue. The two views (to recapitulate) are: 1) "Hey, isn't Hank great? Sure heckity I likes me some Hank" and 2) "Boy howdy, it's a shame that musicians are sometimes shit, sure heckity ain't it?" and the OVERALL question isn't one of trying to reconcile the two points but how to negotiate the tension.

I'm sorry that you, ni'k, seem to misunderstand me. Swa can fuck off because he's a retard.

Edit: I may have mis-read ni'k's post.

what?

you do get that my last post was referring solely to swa right?

[ann ashtray]

Both of y'all are fucking retarded.

Good job attempting to avoid the real question....

[DeadDiscoDildo]

Womanizer, sure.

At least he wasnt a Turtle-izer like kurdtzz

[kinn]

i have yet to see a thread you've made were there has been a "real question" anywhere but in your own head when you've started arguing with someone.

you've been carrying this stupid pretense since your last breakdown. it cannot save you from your own eternal embarrassment.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by kinn

what?

you do get that my last post was referring solely to swa right?

Yep, sorry - see edit.

[kinn]

Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo

Womanizer, sure.

At least he wasnt a Turtle-izer like kurdtzz

its spelt "xurkrut cocobanelle"

[Glice]

Originally Posted by kinn

its spelt "krgystan cobalt"

fxdie

[DeadDiscoDildo]