Tom Waits - Orphans

lucyrulesok · 11.21.2006, 03:44 PM

Has anyone got this yet? I'm really interested but being a poor student I can't afford the £20.
I'm slightly worried its going to be a load of old rehashed stuff. And with three discs it could mean that there was so much good stuff they had to make it incredibly long. Or it could mean that there's a LOT of filler.

Don't get me wrong, I love Mr. Waits, but he does have a tendency to be self indulgent.

What do YOU think?

LifeDistortion · 11.21.2006, 03:56 PM

If your a T. Waits completeist its a must, if you're just a casual fan it might not be what you want. I don't own it, but yes, the album is full of songs that just didn't make it onto his recent albums. For whatever reason. There are kind of love songs, probobly piano balledy stuff, there are rocking songs, electric guitar heavy stuff, and there there's the more odder stuff, the spoken word pieces and just the odder songs. As a Waits fan this stuff does sound really good. For I haven't been disappointed with any of his albums, but if you're just a casual fan of his, it may be too lengthy and too pricey.

lucyrulesok · 11.21.2006, 04:04 PM

Well, I really do like him, but I'm not a 'completist' in any sense of the word (I have I think 5 of his albums).
I'm quite interested in hearing the 'Bastards' CD, but then experimental stuff can so often turn out to be utter wank.

evollove · 05.30.2007, 07:08 PM

It's fucking awesome and worth every cent. Or borrow it from a library. I'm listening to it right now.

Silent Dan Speaks · 05.30.2007, 10:23 PM

I think it's fantastic. There are plenty of really great songs on it.

evollove · 06.01.2007, 09:24 AM

Here's a bit more thoughtful a response than what I gave above.

I finally GOT Tom Waits after hearing this; I've been a fan for awhile, but these three discs put everything into perspective. And that is, Waits plays American music. The thing starts off with Lie To Me, where Waits does a great Presley impression. There are folk songs in there, along with some Tin Pan Alley stuff. Even the weirder stuff has American roots: Harry Partch's fucked-up percussion, Beat poetry, etc.

As strange and as idiosincratic as Waits can sometimes seem, he is actually working within a long tradition that is, it seems to my ears and my understanding of music history, specifically American.

ps- I've never listened to the thing from start to finish. I begin on a song I like and hit the random button. This approach has yielded many riches.

11.21.2006, 03:44 PM	#1
lucyrulesok 100% Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 769	Has anyone got this yet? I'm really interested but being a poor student I can't afford the £20. I'm slightly worried its going to be a load of old rehashed stuff. And with three discs it could mean that there was so much good stuff they had to make it incredibly long. Or it could mean that there's a LOT of filler. Don't get me wrong, I love Mr. Waits, but he does have a tendency to be self indulgent. What do YOU think?
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

11.21.2006, 03:56 PM	#2
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	If your a T. Waits completeist its a must, if you're just a casual fan it might not be what you want. I don't own it, but yes, the album is full of songs that just didn't make it onto his recent albums. For whatever reason. There are kind of love songs, probobly piano balledy stuff, there are rocking songs, electric guitar heavy stuff, and there there's the more odder stuff, the spoken word pieces and just the odder songs. As a Waits fan this stuff does sound really good. For I haven't been disappointed with any of his albums, but if you're just a casual fan of his, it may be too lengthy and too pricey.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

11.21.2006, 04:04 PM	#3
lucyrulesok 100% Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 769	Well, I really do like him, but I'm not a 'completist' in any sense of the word (I have I think 5 of his albums). I'm quite interested in hearing the 'Bastards' CD, but then experimental stuff can so often turn out to be utter wank.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.30.2007, 07:08 PM	#4
evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	It's fucking awesome and worth every cent. Or borrow it from a library. I'm listening to it right now.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.30.2007, 10:23 PM	#5
Silent Dan Speaks the destroyed room Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 603	I think it's fantastic. There are plenty of really great songs on it.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.01.2007, 09:24 AM	#6
evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	Here's a bit more thoughtful a response than what I gave above. I finally GOT Tom Waits after hearing this; I've been a fan for awhile, but these three discs put everything into perspective. And that is, Waits plays American music. The thing starts off with Lie To Me, where Waits does a great Presley impression. There are folk songs in there, along with some Tin Pan Alley stuff. Even the weirder stuff has American roots: Harry Partch's fucked-up percussion, Beat poetry, etc. As strange and as idiosincratic as Waits can sometimes seem, he is actually working within a long tradition that is, it seems to my ears and my understanding of music history, specifically American. ps- I've never listened to the thing from start to finish. I begin on a song I like and hit the random button. This approach has yielded many riches.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|