Is NTSC the same as PAL?

Norma J · 06.12.2007, 01:18 AM

Or are they relatively different things?

Everyneurotic · 06.12.2007, 01:21 AM

no, pal is a european format, ntsc is an american one. both are incompatible.

Norma J · 06.12.2007, 01:25 AM

Ok, thanks.

You know if PAL is compatible with VHS?

max · 06.12.2007, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

Ok, thanks.

You know if PAL is compatible with VHS?

pal is just a way to encode color when it's broadcast onto TV systems... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL#PAL_vs_NTSC

VHS is a whole another thing - a format rather than a code. And yes, PAL VHS videocassettes do exist, obviously. why you asking?

pbradley · 06.12.2007, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

no, pal is a european format, ntsc is an american one. both are incompatible.

And let's keep it that way!

_slavo_ · 06.12.2007, 02:37 AM

Yeah, once I bought a "Screaming Fields of Sonic Love" VHS in the U.S. and back home it fucked up my VHS player.

terminal pharmacy · 06.12.2007, 02:38 AM

pal has better resolution by about 20%

australia uses the pal format which is virtually the same as secam which is what most of the asian nations use. the pal res is 576pixels of vert res when ntsc is around 480 vert res. most tvs sold in australia have a pal ntsc switch, if set to pal an ntsc tape or dvd will scroll vertically as if your tvs vertical hold is out of sync.

Tokolosh · 06.12.2007, 02:51 AM

I'd like to add that the frame rates are different too.
Pal 25fps / NTSC 29.97fps

Norma J · 06.12.2007, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

pal has better resolution by about 20%

australia uses the pal format which is virtually the same as secam which is what most of the asian nations use. the pal res is 576pixels of vert res when ntsc is around 480 vert res. most tvs sold in australia have a pal ntsc switch, if set to pal an ntsc tape or dvd will scroll vertically as if your tvs vertical hold is out of sync.

I'm trying to order a video on the net and the site needs to know what I want, they say they have no PAL so it may not work for me whatever they have. But isn't PAL the standard format for America?

What does American tend to use?
What does Australia tend to use?

terminal pharmacy · 06.12.2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

I'm trying to order a video on the net and the site needs to know what I want, they say they have no PAL so it may not work for me whatever they have. But isn't PAL the standard format for America?

What does American tend to use?
What does Australia tend to use?

the us is ntsc, inferior colour rendering for faster frame rate as toklosh pointed out. and you can buy it you can always find someone who can copy it for you

Tokolosh · 06.12.2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

What does American tend to use?
What does Australia tend to use?

NTSC wiki
PAL wiki

Norma J · 06.12.2007, 02:57 AM

So my video player says NTSC playback on it, so I guess I can buy American Videos?

This shit confuses the fuck outta me.

terminal pharmacy · 06.12.2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

So my video player says NTSC playback on it, so I guess I can buy American Videos?

This shit confuses the fuck outta me.

ok so your video plays it back fine, but your tv may not if you dont have an ntsc / pal switch on your tv

Norma J · 06.12.2007, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh

Yeah, I read a bunch of stuff on Wikipedia but I'm still confused and mainly I guess because I don't want to order the wrong thing.

Tokolosh · 06.12.2007, 03:01 AM

You might be able to view the tape, but chances are, you'll see it in black and white with a flickering image.

Norma J · 06.12.2007, 03:04 AM

So best go with the expensive dvd option?

terminal pharmacy · 06.12.2007, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

So best go with the expensive dvd option?

yeah but remember we are region 4 here in aus, unless you are gonna play on your comp, but then you usually only get to change your region code a few times.

Norma J · 06.12.2007, 03:08 AM

I found a code a few years ago for my dvd player on the net when I was given Dig as a gift which made it all regions.

Thanks, gentlemen.

Iain · 06.12.2007, 04:41 AM

I think and NTSC video should be fine if your video player says it can play them back and your TV is fairly new (bought in the last 10 years ish). Most newish tv's, in Europe at least, will playback NTSC.

!@#$%! · 06.12.2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

Or are they relatively different things?

no, diff number of lines, different frame rates (29.97 vs 25 frames per second) and different color information, and then there's NTSC in Japan and U.S., and France has Secam.

all of these formats are VHS recordable. the question has to do with your monitor. a PAL signal won't display correctly on an NTSC monitor and vice versa)

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