[atsonicpark]

 

[noisereductions]

The Lemonheads covered "Home Is Where You're Happy" on CREATOR. It's so awesome.

[atsonicpark]

His music is fucking awesome. I love PEOPLE SAY I'M NO GOOD... one of my favorite songs ever!

Tuning is a symbol of the opression of the man! You have that concept of in tune/out of tune. I don't have that yin/yang man, I don't need to tune my guitar cause I'm everywhere and everything, a440 is just an illusion man.

[Anngella]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

His music is fucking awesome. I love PEOPLE SAY I'M NO GOOD... one of my favorite songs ever!

Tuning is a symbol of the opression of the man! You have that concept of in tune/out of tune. I don't have that yin/yang man, I don't need to tune my guitar cause I'm everywhere and everything, a440 is just an illusion man.

Link

[Sonic Youth 37]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2h2FP5sYJI&feature=fvw

[This Is Not Here]

Originally Posted by Satan

<3 u charlie

one of the most startlingly intelligent human beings on the earth, a fact that most people unfortunately fail to recognize or admit to.

He clearly thinks the same about you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9kT47PlLS0
Always nice, isn't it?

[noisereductions]

I'd say he was a brilliant songwriter. But beyond that, nuts and scary.

[phoenix]

wtf at this thread.

wtf.

[Anngella]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

charlie is indeed an insanely intelligent human being. one i have a lot of respect for.

You have respect for him just because you think he's intelligent?

[phoenix]

I disagree that he is even remotely intelligent, but aside from that..

IMHO if you fuck up a bunch of people, that overrides any 'intelligence' you may or may not have.

[phoenix]

you could apply that kind of question to any person who has remotely negatively influenced another person. It doesn't particularly prove or disprove anything.

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

and it takes someone really intelligent to fuck with someone elses mind. a seemingly simple task, such as changing someone else's mind, can be super difficult.

intelligence doesnt always have to be used as a tool to "better" mankind, in order to be valid. adolph hitler was a fucking genius, no matter how ya look at it.

That isn't true either. Are you suggesting that anyone who has ever brought a reaction out of you is therefore highly intelligent? A person's psychological make up and personality type would have far more impact on that kind of situation than intelligence.

I do think that intellect isn't always used in the best of ways, but I really doubt that the mind behind complex ideas or concepts is very often the one to use it in a negative way.

Hitler wasn't a genius, he was a crappy painter and a lonely person who felt the world owed him something. How can any human be considered highly intelligent when they feel they are even remotely important? let alone the most important person in the world. Again, I would really think that has more to do with psychology and personality.

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

we're talking about someone that (most likely) got a bunch of kids to murder a fucking celebrity. not an easy task. NOT something an idiot could (easily) get someone else to WANT to do....do i think his actions were ok? no...i do not. if his actions were what i think his actions probally were.

and no matter how ya look at it...no matter what yr personal opinion may be on what he was/was not trying to do...the dude was, and is, successful.

So on this train of thought.. you consider every person who leads some kind of cult, religious institution, and extremist movement, highly intelligent? Because they have the capacity to appeal to the minds of people who may be more susceptable to needing to be told what to do or needing approval for whatever reason?

[phoenix]

The fact that they are condoning and encouraging completely irrational behaviour in the group is irrelevant? Just because they can lead a group makes them intelligent?

What about children in a school yard, any 7 year old bully who can manipulate a group of other kids into smashing another kid in the face, is a genius?

come on.. It's no different. Give someone enough time and find the 'right' people to follow you, and any dumb fuck could accomplish that.

[phoenix]

I don't really want to get into an argument with you and I know you will believe what you do regardless.

My 2c though.

[infinitemusic]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

i do. his level of intelligence is INSANE < no pun intended.

hes also said plenty of things i agree with.

i think one has to have a slightly off-kilter way of thinking in order to "get" half the things he says/does in interviews.

but angella....if you read that first post carefully..i dont say anything specifically about respecting him because hes intelligent. i kept the two seperate. that seems to be a conclusion you jumped to mighty fast. however, you were right...at least, on some weird level.

I think she was giving you the benefit of the doubt, because if you don't respect him for that, what do you respect him for? Trying to start a race war? Manipulating young women into doing horrible things, including torturing and murdering a pregnant woman? His music is often very good, but that doesn't mean anything, really.

I'm also interested to hear what he's said that you agree with.

[infinitemusic]

He learned all of that stuff from reading Scientology books on how to manipulate people into joining the cult. For the record, he was actually a practicing Scientologist for awhile and had his own (dianetics?) machine. Does that make him unintelligent? No, of course not. But there are many types of intelligence. He happens to have emotional intelligence with a lack of empathy (in other words, narcissism).

hitler wasnt a "crappy" painter...hes stuff just didnt happen to be of much interest to most that saw it. i consider him highly intelligent because he manipulated a whole fucking country and scared the shit out of the rest of the world. not to mention the fact he wiped out a LARGE portion of a certain race. do i think thats a good thing? again, no. but i bet you couldnt do it. i bet most (if anyone) on this board could do it.

But how do you know? A lot of people use their understanding of human behavior to do good. You have to WANT to do those things before you do them, whether or not you are capable. And again, there are many types of intelligence. Being very capable in one area doesn't mean you are in any other area. See socially retarded math nerds for an example.

Also, it's, unfortunately, a lot easier to manipulate people into doing evil things than it is to get them to do good things.

[Prisstina]

i love charlie. i had a huge rasterbated picture of him on my bedroom wall recently.

[Prisstina]

 

highly recommend.

[atsonicpark]

I'm brand new.

Everything I do is always .. brand new.