Why is Stoner Rock so called? - Page 3

sonicl · 11.22.2007, 05:14 AM

Loop-wise, the only track I would think of as being at all stoner-ish is "Burning World", and even that seems more smacked-out than stoned.

11.22.2007, 05:15 AM

Acid Mothers Temple's 'In C' is ok, it has its moments, but it's not all that.

11.22.2007, 05:24 AM

Ok, nobody has mentioned Hawkwind yet, another band that is not stoner rock as such, but it surely pushes its way into this thread, at least for being a favourite with many a stoner rocker. They might not always have the compact rock sound that guitars have on stoner rock records, but their mention makes sense in this thread.

PAULYBEE2656 · 11.22.2007, 06:07 AM

another label to describe music to people who havent a clue....

true stoner rock would sound more like pavement or trumans water than qotsa or kyuss i reckon

finding nobody · 11.22.2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Ok, nobody has mentioned Hawkwind yet, another band that is not stoner rock as such, but it surely pushes its way into this thread, at least for being a favourite with many a stoner rocker. They might not always have the compact rock sound that guitars have on stoner rock records, but their mention makes sense in this thread.

I like them pretty good the self titled album is a pretty good listen. I always hear them called Space Rock though

demonrail666 · 11.22.2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Ok, nobody has mentioned Hawkwind yet, another band that is not stoner rock as such, but it surely pushes its way into this thread, at least for being a favourite with many a stoner rocker. They might not always have the compact rock sound that guitars have on stoner rock records, but their mention makes sense in this thread.

I was thinking about them when Loop were brought up. Maybe it's because they're now so associated with that awful crusty rave/rock festival thing from the early 90s, whatever it is, too many people forget what a terrific band they once were - and how many (usually not so terrific) bands they influenced.

What's interesting about them is that, as dated as they may now sound, they were genuinely looking towards the future, whereas so much of the Stoner rubbish of today has set it's controls firmly to the heart of the past. Talk about missing the point.

Tokolosh · 11.22.2007, 09:35 AM

Lets not forget Fu Manchu. Especially the early stuff with Nebula's Romano and Glass.

demonrail666 · 11.22.2007, 09:36 AM

Someone played me some Fu Manchu a little while ago. Didn't see it at all. The same with Clutch, who I just think are bloody awful.

Tokolosh · 11.22.2007, 09:46 AM

Their best one if you ask me.

Dead-Air · 11.22.2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl

Have you heard Acid Mothers Temple's cover of "In C"? Bloody good stuff, that is. (Yeah, not Reich, I know, but minimalist all the same)

Yeah I copied a library disc of it. It is really good.

Dead-Air · 11.22.2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Ok, nobody has mentioned Hawkwind yet, another band that is not stoner rock as such, but it surely pushes its way into this thread, at least for being a favourite with many a stoner rocker. They might not always have the compact rock sound that guitars have on stoner rock records, but their mention makes sense in this thread.

Space Ritual is one of my all time favorite albums actually, though as you say, it 'aint stoner rock. Certainly an influence on them, especially Lemmy's bass lines (essentially the same he used in Motorhead just massively slower). But where stoner rock would have metal riffs, Hawkwind have moog and pedal distorted wind instruments. The weirdest thing about them is how influential they are to early punk bands, not only the Pistols which Lydon always openly admitted, but lots of west coast U.S. bands too.

el duderino · 11.22.2007, 05:33 PM

stoner is the only white music there is that isnt nerdy

Everyneurotic · 11.22.2007, 05:37 PM

labels labels labels.

Lethrneck4 · 11.22.2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh

Lets not forget Fu Manchu. Especially the early stuff with Nebula's Romano and Glass.

agreed, FU manchu were great early on. they werent very good for long after glass and romano left and formed the BETTER band of the 2, Nebula....nebula besides the stoner rock label also have a tinge of psychdelia to them...u can hear it in glass' guitar playin on early fu manchu albums..and once he left..fu manchu became straight ahead stoner rock for the msot part

Everyneurotic · 11.22.2007, 09:29 PM

you know? i never saw what the big deal was about nebula, other than they were on sub pop.

aren't all fu manchu albums pretty much the same anyway?

Dead-Air · 11.23.2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

you know? i never saw what the big deal was about nebula, other than they were on sub pop.

aren't all fu manchu albums pretty much the same anyway?

I'm with you on Nebula. I saw them live once in this shitty frat bar in Rhode Island opening for Mudhoney and they were so incredibly boring. I didn't know they were supposed to be Stoner Rock, as they weren't really about minimalism built on sharp repetative riffs so much as grunge guitar solo overkill. Like Blue Cheer without the charisma that somehow kept Blue Cheer from sucking.

PAULYBEE2656 · 11.23.2007, 06:15 AM

never liked fu manchu. they bored me.

there is a line between stoner and prog and its about 20 years (one generation)!

batreleaser · 11.23.2007, 10:02 AM

sleep-dopesmoker

just listen to it

GrungeMonkey · 11.23.2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I don't see Dead Meadow as being a straight-up "stoner rock" band, though they would definitely appeal to some of that crowd.

Awesome band, seen them a couple of times, got a few of their records, but I'd call them psychedelic more than anything else, especially the more recent stuff... I don't like the term stoner rock. Don't know why. It just sounds so stupid.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 11.23.2007, 02:08 PM

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pentestar in the style of demons.

you know, this is EXACTLY THE ALBUM that came to my mind when I saw this thread, and I was looking for an online version of it to elaborate my point. unnecessarily heavy, without having the excess of headbanger or metal.. its like metal slowwwed down with a different edge..

http://www.myspace.com/earthofficial (I know in advance,this guy is a douche : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YS8SbCeTW8)

11.22.2007, 05:14 AM	#41
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	Loop-wise, the only track I would think of as being at all stoner-ish is "Burning World", and even that seems more smacked-out than stoned.
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11.22.2007, 05:15 AM	#42
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	Acid Mothers Temple's 'In C' is ok, it has its moments, but it's not all that.
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11.22.2007, 05:24 AM	#43
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	Ok, nobody has mentioned Hawkwind yet, another band that is not stoner rock as such, but it surely pushes its way into this thread, at least for being a favourite with many a stoner rocker. They might not always have the compact rock sound that guitars have on stoner rock records, but their mention makes sense in this thread.
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PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	another label to describe music to people who havent a clue.... true stoner rock would sound more like pavement or trumans water than qotsa or kyuss i reckon __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	Lets not forget Fu Manchu. Especially the early stuff with Nebula's Romano and Glass.
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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,509	Someone played me some Fu Manchu a little while ago. Didn't see it at all. The same with Clutch, who I just think are bloody awful.
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Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	Their best one if you ask me.
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el duderino bad moon rising Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 120	stoner is the only white music there is that isnt nerdy
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	you know? i never saw what the big deal was about nebula, other than they were on sub pop. aren't all fu manchu albums pretty much the same anyway? __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	never liked fu manchu. they bored me. there is a line between stoner and prog and its about 20 years (one generation)! __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	sleep-dopesmoker just listen to it
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