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Old 10.18.2013, 09:54 AM   #821
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What if death itself used that same logic on us?
who is this death itself and where does he live? i'd like to have a word with the little fucker.
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Old 10.18.2013, 09:59 AM   #822
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who is this death itself and where does he live? i'd like to have a word with the little fucker.

You can think of the concept of death as being synonymous with evolutionary "selection" and it can still be an impersonal non-entity and yet also have personified aspects. Death, even in the abstract sense, most definitely can be ascribed a personality, even if it is not a person.
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Old 10.18.2013, 10:53 AM   #823
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Old 10.18.2013, 12:36 PM   #824
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personification is the bane of human existence.

Isn't the opposite true? Personification is a way of translating natural concepts and occurrences into concepts which human thinking and experience can readily understand. Humans think in terms of relationships, and we have relationships even if inanimate things such as objects or events, so if we personify them to better understand isn't this beneficial? For example, people often talk about "evolution" as if selection was a person or had a thought out plan. Its preposterous I know, selection is totally randomized, it is quite literally the underlying math of genetics and biodiversity, however, if think of these concepts in personified terms, it helps us understand the net result.
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Old 10.18.2013, 02:45 PM   #825
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Top futurists like Ray Kurzweil have confidently predicted that by 2029, computers and cellphones will be implanted in people’s eyes and ears, creating a “human underclass” of people who refuse to adopt the technology that will be viewed as backwards and unproductive because of their resistance to embracing the singularity – man merging with machine.
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Old 10.18.2013, 02:49 PM   #826
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man, i think that's sick! but it's a free planet.
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Old 10.18.2013, 02:51 PM   #827
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Top futurists like Ray Kurzweil have confidently predicted that by 2029, computers and cellphones will be implanted in people’s eyes and ears, creating a “human underclass” of people who refuse to adopt the technology that will be viewed as backwards and unproductive because of their resistance to embracing the singularity – man merging with machine.
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you need a futurist to predict that? srsly?

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Old 10.18.2013, 03:20 PM   #828
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you need a futurist to predict that? srsly?

I think that's a bunch of Ray Bradbury bullshit. People are not inherently smart enough as a whole to pull it off. Further, I disagree with it being an even remotely good idea to have the internet and computers attached to the eyes or brain. The eyes look at things that don't always warrant a google search, the brain thinks thoughts that we probably don't want to store in our coookies folder. What about glitches? User error? In other words, people are too human to make that a success. I think its more of a wetdream of tech geeks rather than anything bordering on realistic. When I was in elementary school they talked about flying cars and cold fusion by the 2010s as well, how did that pan out exactly?

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Old 10.19.2013, 10:12 AM   #830
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shit. it was around 3 people and now the more i think about it, the number grows. it was 3 people and that is far too many for me, that today i would really want to have the chance to tell them a nice, clear, big 'fuck off'.


*obviously thats bad mood talking, but really its their fault for being disappointing and boring.
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Old 10.19.2013, 01:34 PM   #831
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I think that's a bunch of Ray Bradbury bullshit. People are not inherently smart enough as a whole to pull it off. Further, I disagree with it being an even remotely good idea to have the internet and computers attached to the eyes or brain. The eyes look at things that don't always warrant a google search, the brain thinks thoughts that we probably don't want to store in our coookies folder. What about glitches? User error? In other words, people are too human to make that a success. I think its more of a wetdream of tech geeks rather than anything bordering on realistic. When I was in elementary school they talked about flying cars and cold fusion by the 2010s as well, how did that pan out exactly?


Are you really so sure about that?Nothing is guaranteed for anything or anyone.


Fusion exists in oxford japan france south korea the usa and many many other places. Recently in the USA they produced more energy than the entire country uses in a day in a short burst. ITER in france intends to have commercial fusion within decades. We have already done fusion again and again and its only a matter of a few specific and imminently solvable engineering problems until commercial reactors are available in a country near you. They will be able to power an entire nation for a fraction of a fraction of the cost we spend now.

Flying cars are also on the way but prob not before commercial fusion.

Frankly I am not impressed with your attitude when it comes to these things.

You are still fantasizing that the external world is a manifestation of us/god and we can escape existing in it.

You can google images of human thoughts. We have images of actual thoughts forming in the brain from a scann. We have scanned footage of conscious perception and you can look that up too. Science is closing in fast and theres not going to be a lot of room left for your attitude.
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Old 10.19.2013, 01:36 PM   #832
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A good description of life itself which also emphasises the need for more science and technology
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Old 10.19.2013, 01:45 PM   #833
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You are still fantasizing that the external world is a manifestation of us/god and we can escape existing in it.Science is closing in fast and theres not going to be a lot of room left for your attitude.


No, quite the opposite, we live in the external world, how could we possibly escape it? I think that all these tech nerd fantasies are the victims of escapism. About these "scientists" I think Sarah Connor said it best..


 


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Old 10.19.2013, 01:53 PM   #834
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i'm waiting for siri to take telepathic orders and actually be able to figure shit out. it will happen.

"get me to bermuda for a week with a total budget of X excluding meals". still waiting for my flying car though.
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Old 10.19.2013, 02:22 PM   #835
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Sighs. People can't even handle the responsibilities of owning existing technologies without seriously hurting themselves or outright killing other people, on accident no less! Again, user error means we should want to be less technologically enabled doesn't it? Besides, my computer fucks up all the time. I couldn't imagine what I would do if it were attached to my brain!! Cars crash all the time, what the fuck would we do if they start dropping out of the fucking sky every time somebody gets a flat or into a fender bender?? Lord have His mercy
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No, quite the opposite, we live in the external world, how could we possibly escape it? I think that all these tech nerd fantasies are the victims of escapism. About these "scientists" I think Sarah Connor said it best..


 

But that quote can also be applied to women. And when you say tech nerd fantasies as if to imply the things I just posted are merely that, you are being disingenuous. These tech nerds will do more to liberate humanity from hunger and darkness than your religion will and that is a fact .

You are displaying a really regressive conservative attitude when it comes to this stuff.
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You are displaying a really regressive conservative attitude when it comes to this stuff.

When it comes to absurd technologies, you can call me Amish for all I care. I'm being more realistic than y'all are admitting, but simply put, average people aren't anywhere near responsible enough for the technology we have, let alone these sci-fi pulp fantasies of "the future". For science minded folks, it seem y'all aren't exactly thinking this one through
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Sighs.
sigh all you want, i need a secretary that doesn't require a full salary and benefits. siri right now takes dictation and sends emails but doesn't quite know how to solve problems.

 


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Lord have His mercy

yes yes, he can have it-- all to himself.

btw, do you do an impression of a little old lady when you say that? i think it's kind of hilarious and i can't imagine it otherwise.


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When it comes to absurd technologies, you can call me Amish for all I care.

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When it comes to absurd technologies, you can call me Amish for all I care. I'm being more realistic than y'all are admitting, but simply put, average people aren't anywhere near responsible enough for the technology we have, let alone these sci-fi pulp fantasies of "the future". For science minded folks, it seem y'all aren't exactly thinking this one through

Ignorant gibberish, swallow thy pride.
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