[infinitemusic]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

whatever you say buddy.. but America has a terrible history of supporting brutally oppressive regimes which rely upon terror tactics and mass imprisonment.. I say America has the philosophy in its arsenal that says "whats good for the goose is good for the gander.."

further America already has an extensive history of abusing its own population. if it can happen with american guns and money and troops in places like Colombia and Iraq, why not here? If American forces can incarcerate arabs and latin americans, why not americans? If it happened in the past to Indians, Africans, the Japanese, what separates us from them? nothing..

Yeah, we all already now all about those things. It hasn't happened yet, and so it's pretty fucking unlikely. But if you're worried about it, you should be emailing and calling your congressman every fucking day to spout off against the indefinite detention ideas that are currently floating up there. Are you?

[demonrail666]

 

[infinitemusic]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

don't forget Oswald Spengler who argued in"Decline of the West" that it is the organic and inevitable route of civilizations to come into decline and collapse, just as life must succumb to death.. His analysis was exceptionally poignant, and considering the time, his comments of decline of tradition and even a rise in public atheism and rebellion is practically a prophecy of the current age. in his argument, kharma has nothing to do with it but results in the same crash.

The funny thing is, it doesn't necessarily have to be inevitable. But it's the people who cling blindly to tradition, greed, selfishness, etc even when doing the opposite is actually for the better good of the country that will lead to its downfall. I'm not really sure exactly what you're saying about rebellion? Are you saying it's a bad thing? Because that seems like it totally goes against everything you've ever said on this board. I think rebellion for its own sake (like the MTV brand of rebellion) is definitely bad because it replaces valid action with badboy showboating, but rebellion in the form of actual, forward social change is good.

[infinitemusic]

Originally Posted by notyourfiend

me too. more global capitalism's sins though.

Well that's a pretty unfair ratio then. Global captitalism has killed millions more. Hundreds of millions even?

[artsygrrl]

Originally Posted by notyourfiend

b/c that shit would be totally obnoxious.

Do you mean obnoxious because it's in poor taste or because it's a stupid topic, like old news?

[artsygrrl]

Originally Posted by Trasher02

 

Trasher, wtf? This is something I still CRY about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh4IBuXClWU
ha

[notyourfiend]

Originally Posted by artsygrrl

Do you mean obnoxious because it's in poor taste or because it's a stupid topic, like old news?

both

[artsygrrl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG0yEu6UUBE