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Old 07.09.2007, 11:16 AM   #21
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you hippies dont know shit about economics....and economics is the study of human behavior, which means you dont know shit about yourselves or anyone else.
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Old 07.09.2007, 11:23 AM   #22
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"The substantivist position (of economic anthropology), first proposed by Karl Polanyi in his work The Great Transformation, argues that the term 'economics' has two meanings: the formal meaning refers to economics as the logic of rational action and decision-making, as rational choice between the alternative uses of limited (scarce) means. The second, substantive meaning, however, presupposes neither rational decision-making nor conditions of scarcity. It simply refers to study of how humans make a living from their social and natural environment."___from wiki
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Old 07.09.2007, 11:51 AM   #23
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You directed a post at pretty much no-one there.
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Old 07.09.2007, 12:17 PM   #24
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Old 07.09.2007, 02:25 PM   #25
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i think it means not controlled, completely free capitalism. with no barriers in prices, or like not having consumers rights organisations, or no rules in advertising a product. it sounded sort of naive choice of words also, but i looked briefly on net and saw it been used in texts. didnt find any official terminology though.

Thanks that is what I meant. Sorry for poor choice of words.
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Old 07.09.2007, 03:20 PM   #26
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It's the worst economic system there is... except for all the other ones.
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Old 07.09.2007, 06:44 PM   #27
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Because the rich get richer whilst the poor get poorer. Capitalism is about convenience and as a society, I beleive, convenience is not what we need right now.
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Old 07.09.2007, 06:46 PM   #28
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Because the rich get richer whilst the poor get poorer. Capitalism is about convenience and as a society, I beleive, convenience is not what we need right now.

you mean i don't need my 2am lardburger with extra-value fries and a monster-sized shake???

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but free markets are nice though. really, think about it. you want government-issued soap?
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Old 07.09.2007, 06:55 PM   #29
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HAHA.

We as a society need to feed off eachother and be more concious of what we purchase. People don't even know why they buy what they buy or how it came about to be for them to buy whatever it be that they buy.

Just sayin'.
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Old 07.09.2007, 06:58 PM   #30
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you mean i don't need my 2am lardburger with extra-value fries and a monster-sized shake???

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but free markets are nice though. really, think about it. you want government-issued soap?

But what is sold in your country is soap that your government thinks it's suitable to wash your own testicles, anyway. Your point?
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Old 07.09.2007, 07:00 PM   #31
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HAHA.

We as a society need to feed off eachother and be more concious of what we purchase. People don't even know why they buy what they buy or how it came about to be for them to buy whatever it be that they buy.

Just sayin'.

YEAH but that freedom of choice (more conscientiously etc) is a FREE MARKET choice. you see? you're proposing use of the market to advance social causes. i'm with you there. i (Try to) only buy products that meet non-sweatshop low-impact standards. i believe there are a lot of people like that. slowly, but it's working.

government monopolies are EEEEEVIL. more so perhaps than "big corporations" who still have to answer to consumers. think about it.
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Old 07.09.2007, 07:03 PM   #32
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I really don't have that big of a problem with capitalism as a theory as much as I have a problem with the size of the market. A larger market means more money made, more money made means a larger corporation, a larger corporation means a stronger drive for profit, a stronger drive for profit means a search for a larger market and all along this process righteous causes like environmental conservation and human rights are forgotten. When we fully realize globalization, what comes after that?
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Old 07.09.2007, 07:30 PM   #33
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I really don't have that big of a problem with capitalism as a theory as much as I have a problem with the size of the market. A larger market means more money made, more money made means a larger corporation, a larger corporation means a stronger drive for profit, a stronger drive for profit means a search for a larger market and all along this process righteous causes like environmental conservation and human rights are forgotten. When we fully realize globalization, what comes after that?

oh brother when we fully realize globalization we get GLOBAL LABOR UNIONS and the big machine won't be able to take it's sweatshop anywhere. nowadays you want to unionize and they take the plant to sri lanka. but when sri lanka is unionized and making living wages, oh, that's going to be maybe the day we finally see poverty end.
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Old 07.09.2007, 07:41 PM   #34
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Once the money gets a higher priority than the people, we know we have a problem.

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Old 07.09.2007, 07:45 PM   #35
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you hippies dont know shit about economics....and economics is the study of human behavior, which means you dont know shit about yourselves or anyone else.

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economics:the science that deals with the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services, or the material welfare of humankind.

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psychology:the science of human and animal behavior.

You're a fucking retard.
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Old 07.09.2007, 07:49 PM   #36
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YEAH but that freedom of choice (more conscientiously etc) is a FREE MARKET choice. you see? you're proposing use of the market to advance social causes. i'm with you there. i (Try to) only buy products that meet non-sweatshop low-impact standards. i believe there are a lot of people like that. slowly, but it's working.

government monopolies are EEEEEVIL. more so perhaps than "big corporations" who still have to answer to consumers. think about it.


hell yeah. free minds, free markets.
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Old 07.09.2007, 08:53 PM   #37
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oh, you poor simple-minded hayden....normally i'd just ignore you at this point...but econ principles are something i stand up for....a question for you:Who produces, distributes, and consumes goods and services? Wombats?...no....try again.
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Old 07.09.2007, 08:56 PM   #38
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oh, you poor simple-minded hayden....normally i'd just ignore you at this point...but econ principles are something i stand up for....a question for you:Who produces, distributes, and consumes goods and services? Wombats?...no....try again.

But it isn't studying us producing them. It's studying the effect those goods have on everyone and everything. You're a fucking retard.
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Old 07.09.2007, 09:01 PM   #39
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No, its about the choices humans make...why does Susan buy this? If Susan had already bought 3 apples at full price, would she buy a 4th if I offered her 50% off? What about a 5th? How many could I offer her for free before she decides that she couldnt eat that many before they spoil?. Why does TopoTopo over in Africa have to walk 30 miles every day to get to work? Why does Laquisha work the streets every night? Why does Bush invade Iraq? ...don't boil econ down to three or four words that you think mean nothing to humanity...
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Old 07.09.2007, 09:04 PM   #40
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I'm not gonna read that retarded post, retard.
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