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Old 08.03.2020, 06:40 AM   #1261
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total residents in USA in 2019: 328.200.000

cumulative cases of covid-19 in USA per 2/8/2020: 4.771.060


so yeah, one percent might be right, it's actually 1.5% with these figures.
But 4.8 million is nothing to joke about or be proud of
It's the more than the amount of residents in the state of Louisiana, who are ranked 25 in the list of 50 states in descending order of total population.
Or, to be put differently: it's nearly the same as the entire amount of residents in the country of New Zealand!!



But also note:
Cases only include people who were tested and confirmed positive. Testing rules and availability vary by country. Some areas may not have data because they haven’t published their data or haven’t done so recently.
(quoted from here)


So the real numbers are higher, and noone knows how high
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Old 08.03.2020, 08:35 AM   #1262
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total residents in USA in 2019: 328.200.000

cumulative cases of covid-19 in USA per 2/8/2020: 4.771.060


so yeah, one percent might be right, it's actually 1.5% with these figures.
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So the real numbers are higher, and noone knows how high

yes

and those figures plus the 150K deaths here amount to ~3.14% death rate among the proven infected.

but death is not everything. there’s frequent lasting damage to heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, etc, even in many of those who survived mild symptoms.

of course pointless trying to explain math and science and medicine and risk management to faith-based trump cultists.
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Old 08.03.2020, 02:30 PM   #1263
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Old 08.04.2020, 04:57 AM   #1264
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Brace yourself for this one

3 minutes long for the time precious.

I actually thought it was a parody interview but nope it's Trump at his absolute smartest. Kudos to the interviewer for calling him out on his shit too. Too many have let him waffle with no consequence.
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Old 08.05.2020, 04:02 AM   #1265
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Yeah, while you make up your mind, dipshit, let's all fly blind.

https://covid19.who.int/

Scroll down to "Situation by Country, Territory or Area". USA #1, that's not news, but change the drop-down menu from "Total" to "Total per 1 million population". It's what I call "the ranking that really matters", the proportional one - ratio, in one word. The United States has entered this list for the first time. IN FREE FALL, along with Brazil, and my country as well: unlike you idiots, I'm not a nationalistic fuck who'll stand by their billionaire joke of a president right or wrong.

Well. in the first place, your reply is quite the non sequitur to my post, which concerned the potential value of a suggested treatment for the disease, rather than the prevalence of the disease within the populations of certain affected countries. Secondly, I would indicate that the Federal government here in the US has little constitutional authority to regulate public health, authority over which, being not specifically delegated to the Federal government, is reserved to the several States, or to the People, under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. A further amendment to the Constitution might be in order upon this point, yet the better practice might be to respect local knowledge of local conditions in matters of public health (as a disease presenting as a huge public health crisis in New York City might not be a concern on the Navajo reservations in New Mexico).
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Old 08.05.2020, 05:18 AM   #1266
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Well. in the first place, your reply is quite the non sequitur to my post, which concerned the potential value of a suggested treatment for the disease, rather than the prevalence of the disease within the populations of certain affected countries. Secondly, I would indicate that the Federal government here in the US has little constitutional authority to regulate public health, authority over which, being not specifically delegated to the Federal government, is reserved to the several States, or to the People, under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. A further amendment to the Constitution might be in order upon this point, yet the better practice might be to respect local knowledge of local conditions in matters of public health (as a disease presenting as a huge public health crisis in New York City might not be a concern on the Navajo reservations in New Mexico).


 
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NYT Opinion: America Could Control the Pandemic by October......Let’s Get to It!!!
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Six to eight weeks. Thatís how long some of the nationís leading public health experts say it would take to finally get the United Statesí coronavirus epidemic under control. If the country were to take the right steps, many thousands of people could be spared from the ravages of Covid-19. The economy could finally begin to repair itself, and Americans could start to enjoy something more like normal life.

Six to eight weeks. For proof, look at Germany. Or Thailand. Or France. Or nearly any other country in the world.

In the United States, after a brief period of multistate curve-flattening, case counts and death tolls are rising in so many places that Dr. Deborah Birx, the Trump administrationís coronavirus response coordinator, described the collective uptick as a sprawling ďnew phaseĒ of the pandemic. Rural communities are as troubled as urban ones, and even clear victories over the virus, in places like New York and Massachusetts, feel imperiled.

At the same time, Americans are fatigued from spending months under semi-lockdown. Bars and restaurants are reopening in some places, for indoor service ó and debates are underway over if and when and how to do the same for schools ó even as the virus continues to spread unchecked. Long delays in testing have become an accepted norm: It can still take up to two weeks to get results in some places. As the national death toll climbs above 160,000, mask wearing is still not universal.

Itís no mystery how America got here. The Trump administrationís response has been disjointed and often contradictory, indifferent to science, suffused with politics and eager to hand off responsibility to state leaders. Among the states, the response has also been wildly uneven.

Itís also no surprise where the country is headed. Unless something changes quickly, millions more people will be sickened by the virus, and well over a million may ultimately die from it. The economy will contract further as new surges of viral spread overwhelm hospitals and force further shutdowns and compound suffering, especially in low-income communities and communities of color.

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The path to avoiding those outcomes is as clear as the failures of the past several months.

Scientists have learned a lot about this coronavirus since the first cases were reported in the United States earlier this year. For instance, they know now that airborne transmission is a far greater risk than contaminated surfaces, that the virus spreads through singing and shouting as much as through coughing, and that while any infected person is a potential vector, superspreading events ó as in nursing homes, meatpacking plants, churches and bars ó are major drivers of the pandemic. By most estimates, just 10 to 20 percent of coronavirus infections account for 80 percent of transmissions.

Experts have also learned a lot about what it takes to get a coronavirus outbreak under control. Most of the necessary steps are the same ones public health experts have been urging for months.

Just because America has largely bungled these steps so far doesnít mean it canít turn things around. The nation can do better. It must.

Clear, Consistent Messaging

President Trump and his closest advisers have repeatedly contradicted the scientific evidence, and even themselves, on the severity of the pandemic and the best ways to respond to it. Theyíve sown confusion on the importance of mask wearing, the dangers of large gatherings, the potential of untested treatments, the availability of testing and the basic matter of who is in charge of what in the pandemic response.

That confusion seems to have bred a national apathy ó and a dangerous partisanship over public health measures ó that will be difficult to undo. But leaders at every level can improve the situation by coordinating their messaging: Masks are essential and will be required in all public places. Social distancing is a civic responsibility. The virus is not going away anytime soon, but we can get it under control quickly if we work together.

Such messaging works best when it comes from the very top, but state and local leaders donít have to wait for federal leaders to step up.

Better Use of Data

As Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has noted: The United States has a glut of data and a dearth of information.

Data on who is getting sick and where is not being used to guide interventions, and crucial figures like test result times and the portion of new cases that were found through contact tracing are not consistently or routinely reported. If scientists had better access to such figures, they could use it to forecast Covid-19 conditions the same way they forecast the weather: warning when a given outbreak is spreading and advising people to adjust their plans accordingly. State and local leaders can make all their data public, and the C.D.C. ought to help them get that data into a usable form.

Smarter Shutdowns

In places like Melbourne, Australia, and Harris County, Texas, health officials have created numerical and color-coded threat assessments that tell officials and citizens exactly what to do, based on how extensively the coronavirus is spreading in their communities. The highest alert levels call for full-on shelter in place, while the lowest call for careful monitoring of high-risk establishments.


It would behoove the C.D.C. to create a similar, evidence-based scale and work with state and local leaders to employ it in individual communities. In places where the virus is still rampant, that would mean much more aggressive shutdowns than have been carried out in the past. (The United States has not had a true national lockdown, shuttering only about half the country, compared with 90 percent in other countries with more successful outbreak control.)

Smarter shutdowns may also mean closing bars and indoor dining in many places so schools there can reopen more safely; closing meat processing plants until better protections are in place; and tightening state borders in a sensible, as-needed fashion.

Testing, Tracing, Isolation and Quarantine

The most consistent mantra of experts trying to get the coronavirus pandemic under control has been that the nation needs much better testing, tracing, isolation and quarantine protocols. Despite examples across the globe for how to achieve all four, the United States has largely failed on these fronts. Testing delays make contact tracing ó not to mention isolation and quarantine ó impossible to execute.

To resolve the crisis, federal officials need to commandeer the intellectual property of companies that have developed effective rapid diagnostics and utilize the Defense Production Act to make and distribute as many of those tests as possible. As testing is brought up to speed, officials also need to expand contact tracing and quarantine programs so that once outbreaks are brought under control, states are prepared to keep them in check.

The causes of Americaís great pandemic failure run deep, exacerbated by innumerable longstanding problems, from a weak public health infrastructure to institutional racism to systemic inequality in health care, housing and employment. If the pandemic forces the nation to meaningfully grapple with any of those issues, then perhaps all this suffering will not have been in vain. But that work canít really begin until Americans solve the problem thatís right in front of them, with the tools that are already at their disposal.
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