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Old 01.16.2019, 07:13 AM   #41
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do you think there's any chance that the brexit might actually not happen?

Your guess is as good as mine. I think that she's going to survive the no confidence vote. It's now crystal clear to everyone that whatever comes up next, this government never had a plan B, C or else in case of failure to push through any finalised deal. Maybe the EU will agree to extend article 50 and the agony will go on for a few more years.
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Old 01.16.2019, 07:40 AM   #42
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Quite a terrible situation.
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Old 01.16.2019, 07:57 AM   #43
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how can they extend it past the upcoming election though

at most through june and that’s it, no?

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Old 01.16.2019, 08:11 AM   #44
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this is anne applebaum, the washington post’s european commentator:

“Brexit has been a catastrophic political failure. This messy, unpopular deal, the most unpopular government policy that anybody can remember, was produced by a political class that turned out to be ignorant — about Europe, Europeans, trade arrangements, institutions — and arrogant, disdaining knowledge and expertise. It was the work of leaders who favored identity politics over economics, who preferred an undefined notion of “sovereignty” to the real institutions that gave Britain influence and power, who believed in fantasies and scorned reality.”

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Old 01.16.2019, 08:23 AM   #45
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this is anne applebaum, the washington post’s european commentator:

“Brexit has been a catastrophic political failure. This messy, unpopular deal, the most unpopular government policy that anybody can remember, was produced by a political class that turned out to be ignorant — about Europe, Europeans, trade arrangements, institutions — and arrogant, disdaining knowledge and expertise. It was the work of leaders who favored identity politics over economics, who preferred an undefined notion of “sovereignty” to the real institutions that gave Britain influence and power, who believed in fantasies and scorned reality.”

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I wonder how long some people will go on blaming the EU, immigrants, boats, earthquakes, Mexicans, gays, smelly people etc for problems obviously caused by the policies put in place by politicians elected in their respective countries. This contagious shitshow has been going on for a while, but it can't and won't go on forever.
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Old 01.16.2019, 09:14 AM   #46
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I wonder how long some people will go on blaming the EU, immigrants, boats, earthquakes, Mexicans, gays, smelly people etc for problems obviously caused by the policies put in place by politicians elected in their respective countries. This contagious shitshow has been going on for a while, but it can't and won't go on forever.

Well, at some point people will be fed up with the real culprits. But in time those same instutions will put up (old) new smokescreens to gain the trust of a good amount of each respective population and as a result of that - power. Some people are easily deceived and swayed by the old game of pointing fingers and some catering to their fears. History has a penchant to repeat itself and unfortunately, people can be very shortsighted. I'm seeing it in Austria right now. 20 years ago the Conservative Party under the patronage of corporatists with clear rightwing leanings as well as the far right gained momentum during elections - which lead to their coalition. Within a few years they pretty much fucked up everything they touched. It was also during their leadership that some of the most infamous fiscal scandals in recent history took place. Judicial proceedings are ongoing. You'd think with something so fresh in people's collective memory - like literally being still reported about - they would know better than to elect such pseudo Gordon Geckos and perpetually grinning barrels full of sheer bigotry. 2017 however showed that the same scare tactics used in 1999 (oh those evil immigrants, it's all the fault of the EU) still work just fine with a good portion of the population. With the addendum that the Conservative Party now isn't even pretending to be a tad to the right of being neutral. Hell, they now have fully adopted a lot of the far right's talking points and policies. I recently visited my old home to look for mixtapes I had made sometime around 2004. While doing so, I found an old cassette with snippets of radio newscasts from early 2000. It seemed way to familiar to what's going on right now. Just exchange the names and the year and you could hardly tell the difference.
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Old 01.16.2019, 09:39 AM   #47
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I wonder how long some people will go on blaming the EU, immigrants, boats, earthquakes, Mexicans, gays, smelly people etc for problems obviously caused by the policies put in place by politicians elected in their respective countries. This contagious shitshow has been going on for a while, but it can't and won't go on forever.

it's a trend which can result in 2 ways:
1) there'll be the new rise of fascism and God knows what will happen then
2) the populist right wing governments (Italy, Austria, Hungary, Brazil) will show how uncapable they are of basic country management, they'll embarrass themselves and the whole trend will implode
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Old 01.16.2019, 09:54 AM   #48
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Or, as in USA, the righties are in power, fuck things up terribly, are tossed out, the reconstruction of the damage is slowly completed, then....righties back in power. Lather, rinse, repeat?
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Old 01.16.2019, 01:39 PM   #49
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riotous laughs should be more like but oh monotheist outrage

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Old 01.16.2019, 03:46 PM   #50
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Or, as in USA, the righties are in power, fuck things up terribly, are tossed out, the reconstruction of the damage is slowly completed, then....righties back in power. Lather, rinse, repeat?


Exactly. If your vision is longterm then It kind of renders instant political discussion pointless. I try not to get involved but..

There's job loss already, the silver lining is Slovakia has gained job opportunities. The auld foreigners taking our jobs irony is not lost. If there's a hard Brexit then the health sector - where I work - stands to create lots of new job vacancies with varying new work due to the real possibility of drug prices multiplying and substitute generic drugs being doled out by doctors and pharmacies. Caveat will be the government subsidising all costs.

*back under the rock until it all blows over
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Old 01.16.2019, 05:34 PM   #52
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holy shit john bogle died

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...It's almost as if old people die
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There's job loss already, the silver lining is Slovakia has gained job opportunities.

I get the joke, however, the unemployment rate here has been cca 5-6% lately, so we're not complaining that much.

Btw, I've been in contact with London about one job lately too, so I wonder myself how this is going to affect the job market.
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Old 01.17.2019, 07:19 AM   #55
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...It's almost as if old people die
lmao that wasnt the point... actually he lived way past the expected age for someone who started having heart problems in his early 30s

but he was one of the geniuses of our time. a revolutionary and a liberator. the simn bolvar of mutual funds lololol. but seriously. a great mind.
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Or, as in USA, the righties are in power, fuck things up terribly, are tossed out, the reconstruction of the damage is slowly completed, then....righties back in power. Lather, rinse, repeat?




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...It's almost as if old people die
lmao that wasnt the point... actually he lived way past the expected age for someone who started having heart problems in his early 30s

but he was one of the geniuses of our time. a revolutionary and a liberator. the simn bolvar of mutual funds lololol. but seriously. a great mind.
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I get the joke, however, the unemployment rate here has been cca 5-6% lately, so we're not complaining that much.

Btw, I've been in contact with London about one job lately too, so I wonder myself how this is going to affect the job market.

One thing to note is should there be an Australian style points system implementation then gaining employment here may be more difficult post Brexit. If you do make it to these stiff upper class snobby white paranoid shores then one option could be living up north in cheaper property with cheaper living expenses whilst collecting an inflated cheque daan saaath. Essentially living like a king up here.
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hahaha wat
is that legal?
(i know dick cheneys organ harvesting isnt...)

anyway bogle had a heart transplant in his 60s, yeah...
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hahaha wat
is that legal?
(i know dick cheney’s organ harvesting isn’t...)

anyway bogle had a heart transplant in his 60s, yeah...

Custard. Eww.

I'm not sure who he is because I'm an imbecilic twat, obvs. So until Neon Neon release a montage concept album compressing his life into short and snappy three minute pop songs I can relate to, I'm oot!
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