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Old 10.29.2011, 05:49 PM   #141
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Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 8/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 9/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 8/10
Dirty- 7/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 7.5/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 8.5/10
Murray Street- 10/10
Sonic Nurse- 8/10
Rather Ripped- 8.5/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10

Everything is rated based on "for what it is" standards. So, the SY EP, though not really a better album than, say, Eternal, gets a higher score because of its consistency. No bad songs.

Really, there are times when I think they're each perfect in their own way, like Beatles albums. How do you compare HELP! to the White Album? They're both 10's in completely different ways.

SY has, in my opinion, the best track record in rock history.
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Old 10.30.2011, 03:38 AM   #142
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Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 8/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 9/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 8/10
Dirty- 7/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 7.5/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 8.5/10
Murray Street- 10/10
Sonic Nurse- 8/10
Rather Ripped- 8.5/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10

Everything is rated based on "for what it is" standards. So, the SY EP, though not really a better album than, say, Eternal, gets a higher score because of its consistency. No bad songs.

Really, there are times when I think they're each perfect in their own way, like Beatles albums. How do you compare HELP! to the White Album? They're both 10's in completely different ways.

SY has, in my opinion, the best track record in rock history.
Yeah you´re right. In Beatles differences between early and later records are even bigger as they´re in Sonic records, but they´re all great!
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Old 10.30.2011, 01:17 PM   #143
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I'm going to change my Washing Machine rating to 8/10.

No, it's not my favorite. One of my least favorites actually, but it has some incredible songs, and very few bad spots. For SY it's not perfect, but by normal standards it's a monolith.
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Old 10.30.2011, 01:38 PM   #144
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Good that!

I mean, 7.5 c'mon........
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Old 10.30.2011, 03:15 PM   #145
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Jesus... there are a lot of not-very-consistent SY fans here. I'm seeing a lot more 5's and 6's than I would expect.
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Old 10.30.2011, 03:16 PM   #146
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Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 8/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 10/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 8/10
Dirty- 7/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 8/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 9/10
Murray Street- 10/10
Sonic Nurse- 8/10
Rather Ripped- 8.5/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10

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Old 10.31.2011, 02:07 AM   #147
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Jesus... there are a lot of not-very-consistent SY fans here. I'm seeing a lot more 5's and 6's than I would expect.

Being consistent means being blindfolded and giving every single release an inevitable 10/10, because "i'm a fan?". How old are you, 12?
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Old 10.31.2011, 02:25 AM   #148
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Pretty sure I've responded to this before, but to reflect my current feelings:

Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 9/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 6/10
Sister- 7.5/10
DDN- 7.5/10
Goo- 5/10
Dirty- 7.5/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 6.5/10
Washing Machine- 6/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 9.5/10
Murray Street- 8.5/10
Sonic Nurse- 10/10
Rather Ripped- 2/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10
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Old 10.31.2011, 07:08 AM   #149
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Sonic Youth- 7/10
Confusion is Sex- 7/10
Bad Moon Rising- 9/10
EVOL- 10/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 9/10
Dirty- 9/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 9/10
A Thousand Leaves- 8/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 6/10
Murray Street- 9/10
Sonic Nurse- 9/10
Rather Ripped- 7/10
The Eternal- 8/10
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Old 10.31.2011, 07:46 AM   #150
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Being consistent means being blindfolded and giving every single release an inevitable 10/10, because "i'm a fan?". How old are you, 12?
I give 10 if I think it´s the album that deserves ten. I could give ten to every Sonic Youth album if I truly think they are worth of it.
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Old 10.31.2011, 08:44 AM   #151
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I give 10 if I think it´s the album that deserves ten. I could give ten to every Sonic Youth album if I truly think they are worth of it.

Yes, that's understandable and truly legitimate. I was reacting on that tedious E.Noisefield's comment.
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Old 10.31.2011, 09:37 AM   #152
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SY - 7
CiS - 10
BMR - 8
Evol - 8 (cracking album but a little bit over-rated to me)
Sister - 10
DDN - 10
Goo - 7
Dirty - 8
Jet Set - 6
Washing Machine - 4 (and only that high because of Diamond Sea)
ATL - 7 (some of the all-time high marks, some real bland bits too)
NYCG&F - 7
Murray Street - 8
Nurse - 10
Rather Ripped - 8
Eternal - 2

SYRs:
1 - 9
2 - 8
3 - 7
4 - 8
5 - 3
6 - 8
7 - 4 (again, over-rated - what's the deal?)
8 - 8
9 - 6

Silver sessions - 8
Kill yr Idols - 9
Destroyed room - 8
Melbourne Direct - 9
without kim - 7
Kali yug - 8
Master-dik - 4
sonic death - 7

lee:
amarillo ramp - 9
maelstrom from drift - 8 (glacial trio extract makes me very excited for the lp dropping)
scriptures - 9
east jesus - 8

thurston:
hurricane floyd - 9
psychic hearts - 7
tress - 8
demolished - 8

there's probably some other stuff i've heard but as i'm at work at the moment i can't have a rifle through the discs and hard-drive. oh, just remembered a bonus one:

13-06-1999 seaport boot (supporting modern jazz quartet?) - 10. fucking blinding set, a few bits of syr, never written a note for percussion, killer expressway w/ jam, very early renegade princess (if memory serves). go to utkonos and get it NOW.
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Old 10.31.2011, 09:43 AM   #153
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Nice to see the big love for Nurse btw, best they've done since DDN.
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Old 10.31.2011, 05:30 PM   #154
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Sy Ep--7
Cis--9
Bmr--7.5
Evol--8.5
Sister--10
Ddn--10
Goo--9
Dirty--8.5
Exp. Jet Set--7.5
Wm--8.5
Atl--10
Nyc--5
Ms--8
Nurse--8.5
Rr--7
Eternal--10
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Old 10.31.2011, 07:16 PM   #155
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Being consistent means being blindfolded and giving every single release an inevitable 10/10, because "i'm a fan?". How old are you, 12?

I just didn't expect to see so many low scores. I figured most of us would love at least 90% of their albums, disliking 1 per person at most. I'm not judging, or saying we should all love everything. Just surprised a bit.

But I shouldn't have said "inconsistent". You're right, that's not the right word at all.
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Old 11.01.2011, 04:02 AM   #156
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The ones I rated higher, are the ones I listen to the most. Not based on how good I think they are. Does that make sense? I think EVOL deserves a 10/10, but I don't listen to it that often.
To me the point is, how good album is. But on the other hand, I listen very much albums that I think they´re good.
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Old 11.01.2011, 04:05 AM   #157
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It´s great to see how favourites and non-favourites differs almost each one. I think that proofs how great band SY is.
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The ones I rated higher, are the ones I listen to the most. Not based on how good I think they are. Does that make sense? I think EVOL deserves a 10/10, but I don't listen to it that often.

I know what you mean man, I think the difference between this kind of poll and an, ahem, 'serious' poll by journalists in a magazine is that ones on a board are wholly subjective whereas magazine ones are striving for objectivity: for you to give EVOL a 10 would be trying to do the objective bit, but I say fuck it and rate on a personal scale. I'm the same with that one: I get it was hugely significant and timeless, but I don't think it's quite on the same level as Sister and DDN despite received wisdom.
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Old 11.01.2011, 06:06 AM   #159
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I just didn't expect to see so many low scores. I figured most of us would love at least 90% of their albums, disliking 1 per person at most. I'm not judging, or saying we should all love everything. Just surprised a bit.

But the thing with SY is that there are different song writers with, at times, hugely contrasting styles: my low rating for ATL is because the Kim songs on it are shite. She has done some cracking stuff - Kissability is the sexiest anti-sexism song ever, hands down - but each writer appeals to different people and each writer has personal peaks and troughs of quality. Hence DDN being the 'perfect' SY album - all 3 writers were on killer form throughout. Hence the chap a couple of messages back saying his fave track is Rain on Tin (good call btw) but that Murray Street as a whole is a 7.
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Sonic Youth - 6/10
Confusion Is Sex + Kill Your Idols - 8/10
Bad Moon Rising - 7/10
Evol - 9/10
Sister - 10/10
Daydream Nation - 10/10
Goo - 8/10
Dirty - 9/10
Experimental Jet Set, Trash & No Star - 7/10
Washing Machine - 9/10
A Thousand Leaves - 6/10
New York City Ghosts & Flowers - 5/10
Murray Street - 9/10
Sonic Nurse - 8/10
Rather Ripped - 7/10
The Eternal - 7/10

The Whitey Album - 7/10
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