[Everyneurotic]

so the other day i did this thing on last.fm where i wrote naming negative things about my top 50 artists. i wrote, concerning converge, that when forever comes crashing seemed kinda weak and it's production wasn't very good, my appreciation from the last time i listened to it (admittedly, it's the 'verge album i have listened to the least, not counting caring and killing which i haven't listened to at all). some user made a comment saying that he thought wfcc was probably their best so, i decided to give it a fresh listen and boi was i wrong! it's so amazing in every aspect, then i relistened to petitioning and was floored again, so i decided to make a thread to ask you what's you favorite verge album.

beside, this great great band deserves a thread of their own. so let's talk converge.

[batreleaser]

jane doe is their masterpiece, and i love petitioning the empty sky.

their a hard band to classift, "metalcore" would be the easiest, but they have elements of hardcore, thrash, mathcore ala dillinger escape plan, and very little little hints of noise.

as ive said before, im personally acquainted with jacob bannon as my parents' friends daughters has been engaged to him for quite some time, he is a verrrrry mellow, nice guy.

[uhler]

petitioning the empty sky is my favorite then when forever comes crashing. jane doe was the last thing i listened to by them and it was good. i haven't listened to them since 2003 maybe.

[uhler]

i think caring and killing is some pretty awful shit. stephen brodsky played bass on when forever comes crashing.

[SYRFox]

I love them but for some reason No Heroes is the only album I know really well, so I voted this one. It's incredible, I love how they destroy you with the first titles, then do that ambient track, then destroy you again, and then experiment for the rest of the album

[atsonicpark]

I went with "Petitioning". Any album with the saddest day and dead on it win in my book. All there stuff's good, maybe You Fail Me being a bit lesser than the others, but I'd like to say that the drumming on the second song on Jane Doe is probably the best drumming of all time.

[jimbrim]

jane doe, you fail me second

[LittlePuppetBoy]

I only own No Heroes. It rules

[Everyneurotic]

thinking about it, they are masters of the opening song.

"the saddest day", "concubine", "downpour", they always start with a bulldozer. except for you fail me which starts kinda mellow.

when i saw them live, they started their set with "the saddest day". it was massive.

[uhler]

every time i saw them they started with the saddest day. it pumps up all the kids in the pit. i think that song is their best one.

[Everyneurotic]

i've only seen them once, at a festival, i went to the festival especially to see converge, though. and the crowd was more confused by them than anything, i thought it was going to get rough with the slamming but i was right in the front and pretty much nobody moved.

they were so good and intense, it felt like they only played for 15 minutes instead of 40.

[batreleaser]

they are CONSTANTLY amazing live. they have gotten so fucking good at playing with eachother at this time (hehe, playing with eachother) that they could easily be one of the best live bands on the planet. just saw them in pheonix with the red chord and genghis tron and the of course blew minds and the opening bands off the stage, outta the arena, and outta the fuckin city.

[uhler]

the last time i saw them was at the last gainesville fest (not the fest that put on by no idea records. this was more of a metalcore/emo/hardcore fest) and a little riot went on during converge's set. i think the video is on youtube somewhere.

[Everyneurotic]

so genghis tron weren't all that?

[batreleaser]

nah, pretty boring actually. i bought their newest record, listened to it once and filed it away.

[atsonicpark]

I dunno if I've said this anywhere else on here, but I absolutely HATE Genghis Tron. You pretty much hit it on the head: they're extremely boring. Lots of people might find their music "adventerous" but it's just Fruity Loops keyboards/drums with some boring grinding parts over top. Some occassional good drum programming aside, there's not much to reccomend. One of the more overrated bands of late.

[uhler]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bNF08roKQro

there's the fight for anyone who hasn't seen it. around the 2:30 mark it starts. check out the using the bass as a weapon. i'm sure that didn't feel good.

[Everyneurotic]

i'm in the minority when i say i like board up the house, it's certainly mellower and more ambient but i enjoy; it's not as cohesive as dead mountain mouth but i enjoy it.

it's just an ok-to-good album, sometimes i'm boggled by how people disregard albums just because they are not almost perfect; i myself get caugh up in that but still.

anyhoo, in short i do like genghis tron, not my favorite band and not by a chance in the same league as converge but still a good band.

[atsonicpark]

I never heard the new one, but their EP had one decent song (the last one) and their full length was just mindlessly boring. I appreciate the concept but I kind of lump them with stuff like Horse the Band... interesting but just kind of a novelty... ideas over substance.

[batreleaser]

i think genghis tron would be better as just an electronic band than a cyber-grind band. they sound so tame compared to most of those bands.