[floatingslowly]

I AM A GODLESS MEDICAL INSURANCE CZAR.

EAT MY AMERICAN FIST, UNTERMENSCH.

ps: has aids died yet?

[Keeping It Simple]

Anyone heard this joke before?

What does gay mean? Got Aids yet?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by amerikangod

1) Your source notes that the decline in Europe could last 'for decades' ... that isn't a very long or even guaranteed set of time and while it could shave the numbers down a bit it certainly doesn't return things to homeostasis. It also doesn't even remotely imply that the slightly smaller population will use less resources. Overpopulation doesn't occur at a fixed number of people. It occurs when more people exist than their environment can handle. And you can say "People don't need to use so many resources, if they just balanced things more, more people could get what they need and..." ... well, what could work and what actually happens are two different things. We need to account for things when we're at our worst, as we're rarely at our best.

2) "yes, every country can develop their infrastructures, their resource distribution, their public services"

Having access to clean water and better public services doesn't necessarily 'develop' one to the point of population decline. It takes a more care-free lifestyle experienced by much larger portions of the population before you can note this. Even in first-world nations, the sections of the population that don't have the luxury to do whatever they want haven't slowed down their procreating.

And that said, no, every country cannot develop their infrastructures. Many have infrastructures that have been intentionally broken and re-worked to benefit those that benefit from this outside of the country. Want something to back this up? Watch a documentary called 'Life and Debt.' It's about Jamaica, so you should be way into it.

3) "We, unlike other organisms, have the ability to balance and produce resources on our own. We alter nature, so if we alter in in a beneficial way, we will not fall into overpopulation." As I already said above, what we can do and what we actually do are two different things. I'd like it to happen, I'd like everyone to have what they need, and I certainly think nothing will change if we don't try, but I also think I'd be a huge jackass to say "Overpopulation can never happen." A crisis around overpopulation doesn't have to happen. But that doesn't mean it won't.

"as I said, social darwinism is evident in your perspective. So the 'third world' could never develop eh? what, are the negroids not worth it? So human beings die of preventable diseases because of the rule of natural selection? thats a bit insensitive if you ask me, the diseases are called preventable for reason. or should we just let people continue to die and let God sort it all out? Kyrie Eleison!"

Uh, you're not aware of my perspective then. I don't adhere to social Darwinism. If you're referring to my initial comment of support of the dude who said something about AIDS and cancer being population control, I was joking. Well, I was serious about people getting off of his back, but I was joking about AIDS being a good form of population control. That's what I do on here. I joke. That said, I do feel that the negroids are not worth it. Did you know that black people can't even swim?

And I'll start using sources when this stops being a message board I visit when I feel like being a dick on the internet.

And sir, I'll have you know that I feel no sting as you alleged I should. All I feel is my severely engorged erection. It's always been this way and it'll always be this way, and nothing you can do will change it.

no your joke was clearly a joke, its the fact that you CONTINUE to insist that human beings can suffer from over-population despite the evidence pointed against you (the article and the UN statistic is not about a few decades of decline, it is an over-all projection for the future). It is ok if you do not understand the logistics behind human population growth and development, but regardless you are a social-darwinist. Over-population in human beings is not a natural disaster, its man-made disaster. To apply Darwinist theories to man-made social phenomenon like resource distribution is by definition social Darwinism.

but I am done arguing with you, you are silly. I have heard all your points, countered them with evidence so that I all there is left to do.. If you insist on believing in over-population at least don't let it spew you into believing that preventable diseases and man-made hording of resources is the cause. In Ethiopia in 1985 millions of people died of hunger from a drought, did these people over-use their resources? Was this a natural disaster? NO. there was such an immense surplus of grain in southern Ethiopia that they exported it to Uganda and as far south as Johanesburg. People starved to death while literally across the mountains people were growing rich on excess food production. Moral of the story, there is no such thing as over-population to the point of consuming resources, people just do not share. That is not Darwinian evolution, that is human devolution and greed.

[Satan]

wow are you guys really arguing about this shit? for five pages?

twats.

[static-harmony]

Longest thread I had in a while. Except for "All Things Science."

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Satan

wow are you guys really arguing about this shit? for five pages?

twats.

sorry, I was highly offended. dude is being an idiot. animals suffer overpopulation because they rely on nature for their food. Human beings can grow and produce their own. animals suffer from over-population because they have no control over their health and environment. Human beings can help each other when they are sick and help alter the environment to suite their needs.

[amerikangod]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

sorry, I was highly offended. dude is being an idiot. animals suffer overpopulation because they rely on nature for their food. Human beings can grow and produce their own. animals suffer from over-population because they have no control over their health and environment. Human beings can help each other when they are sick and help alter the environment to suite their needs.

Now, I readily acknowledge that I am often an idiot on this board. But this simply wasn't one of those times.

I'd rather go back to just being an idiot so I won't waste any more time clarifying what I actually believe and what was a joke, but I will say that somewhere along the way you misinterpreted my stance on the issue. It's tempting to refute everything you just wrote especially since you've attributed a number of ideas and claims to me that I not only never made but also simply don't believe in, but yeah.... spending my time making sure a stranger on the internet understands me is just as useful to me as being completely misunderstood by that very same stranger.

[amerikangod]

Originally Posted by Satan

wow are you guys really arguing about this shit? for five pages?

twats.

Sometimes I feel like you're the little girl that kicks the dude in the shins because she has a crush on him and doesn't know how to express it.

Just ask me out already, baby.

[Satan]

i am the little girl that kicks the dude in the shins but not because she has a crush, but because she hates his guts

[amerikangod]

In that case please put me down for (1) hate-fuck.

[Satan]

i don't hate you! i love you bro.

[amerikangod]

Then (1) love-fuck? <3

[pbradley]

Ha ha ha, nobody ever has sex because of love.

[infinitemusic]

Originally Posted by Satan

wow are you guys really arguing about this shit? for five pages?

twats.

Oh no!! People discussing important issues.

[Satan]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Ha ha ha, nobody ever has sex because of love.

this is a goddamn lie

[Shifty Prophet]

Satan clear yr Pm's

[amerikangod]

Originally Posted by Satan

this is a goddamn lie

Yeah, Satan and I are going to love-fuck just to prove you wrong. Right baby?

[Satan]

yes. (both of y'all)

[amerikangod]

I have PM'd you for the purpose of scheduling <3

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Satan

this is a goddamn lie

Write an angry letter to Tanya Gold.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...ips-tanya-gold

Loves comes second to the orgasm or, sometimes, not at all.

^ yes, that is a reference to Austin Powers reference to You Only Live Twice