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Old 10.03.2013, 01:56 PM   #981
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Kendrick's BET cypher verse preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO4FJlExZUA

"Yeah.. and nothing’s been the same since they dropped 'Control'/ And tucked a sensitive rapper back in his Pajama Clothes/ Ha-ha jokes on you, high-five.. I'm bulletproof/ Your sh*ts a never penetrate, pin the tail on the donkey boy you been a fake".

oh shit.. Kendrick vs. Drake beef incoming.

Kendrick will win. He's going for the throat. His next album is going to sell like Tha Carter III, because he is just that obviously good.

Nothing against Drake, but NWT is a mix of perfectly pleasant but entirely ordinary boom-bapping and self promo over Yeezyesque soul samples, and completely unnecessary masturbatory whining, with some of the most lugubrious instrumentals in ages. It's half Jay/Ye and half pbr&b, really (as much as I hate that phrase).

Kendrick is coming like a freight train. He's got the "real"/genuine article "only rapper that matters" vibe down so completely that everyone else sounds pretentious next to his ass, yet he's the one who's really playing the feud scene up, and challenging other rappers. Still, he's gonna play underdog to Drake's Apolllo Creed (in Rocky II).

What the fuck?
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Old 10.03.2013, 02:11 PM   #982
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Kendrick is coming like a freight train. He's got the "real"/genuine article "only rapper that matters" vibe down so completely?

What sad for rap is this is true, but I don't think its true in the way you are asserting. True, there are plenty of conscious, substantive, and intelligent rappers and MCs out there, but they are not as relevant or mainstream. Its not the Fugees or Common were of rap like the late-1990s to early-2000s, we are in the hedonistic revival. Now, it would make Eazy E happy except for the fact that Eazy E was a sincere and genuine low-life, these ninjaz in rap today are strictly studio personas.. That whole "kenrdick diss" was the weakest shit I heard hyped in ten years. It was three lines, 25 seconds, and it wasn't even has as obnoxious as the shit talking on Odd Future records. Hit Em Up it wasn't, in fact, I had to listen to it three times to even see who was being supposedly dissed..

There isn't room for conscious rap in the mainstream, its why Killah Priest's record wasn't well received at all, even though its got 40 tracks and big names, but its to niche. Its why Kanye isn't even pretending to like he was with that Jesus Walks scheme, in Eddie Murphy terms Kanye and all the rap is out there, " "dick, swinging."
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Old 10.03.2013, 03:54 PM   #983
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Old 10.03.2013, 05:02 PM   #984
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have you guys heard this Lorde girl? what do you think?

i like Royals, need to check out her album.
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Old 10.03.2013, 07:15 PM   #985
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sex sells. Kanye just wants sales. He claims artistic intent but the end results are pure fluff aimed at making 13 year old white kids think they are hip.


Stuff and nonsense.

Honestly, if Kanye was only interested in selling records, he would have made three more albums that were as comfortable and radio friendly as his first three. Instead, he made freaking 808's & Heartbreak. That surprised people, and was successful because of the first three albums. He lost as many fans as he preserved, but broke even because it's obviously a great record ("Robocop," bitches). Then, when being pretentious was threatening him commercially and making him a target for a lot of bullshit, he did the most pretentious thing he's ever done ( when I first heard the title was going to be "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy," I was like, "REALLY, DUDE?" And thought that would be the end.

Nope. It's the most widely praised, and highly respected album since Kid A. Sold more than Kid A too. Didn't have a single that for anywhere on radio, but I can't imagine what a negative comment about the album would even sound like.

And Yeezus is just a deliberate attempt to weed out the pseudo fans and pitchfork hop-ons. Again, no radio, no pre-sales, and a marketing campaign that made no sense, and only made people hesitant about buying it.

Where, in all this, do you see sales-driven opportunism? Where is Kanye's Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog flavored Water-type album, released 6-months after it's predecessor to squeeze all the dough possible out of the kids before they get wise?

Tons of legitimately negative things can be said about Kanye. Pick one of those, rather than just calling him a whore. The argument doesn't hold water. J. Cole (Kanye jr., still in his "College Dropout" phase) is almost outperforming Kanye, sales wise. So why doesn't Yet just drop another comfortable, non-threatening college rap album?

Because he thinks his music is too good to sell well, and he doesn't give a fuck what anyone, fan or otherwise, has to say about it.

But I think I should stop arguing Kanye's merits on this board. I'm starting to feel, sound, and look like a broken record. Just agree with me dammit!!
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Old 10.03.2013, 07:16 PM   #986
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Oh, and Pusha is in the year's top five. With a fucking bullet. Wow.
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Old 10.03.2013, 08:14 PM   #987
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Just agree with me dammit!!

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Old 10.04.2013, 05:00 AM   #988
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Lauryn Hill gets out of jail, drops a new song: https://soundcloud.com/mslaurynhill/...-consumerism-1
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have you guys heard this Lorde girl? what do you think?

i like Royals, need to check out her album.
ok i'm digging it!
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Lauryn Hill gets out of jail, drops a new song: https://soundcloud.com/mslaurynhill/...-consumerism-1

Great lyrics, terrible beat, and her voice sounds just bad. She sounds like Lil Bow Wow

And I guess y'all right, she clearly wants to have that heavier sound that Kanye tried to have on Yeezus, I guess he is "influencing" people
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^ agree. Lauryn's lyrics are great, but i wish she would smooth/mellow it out. give me more of that Miseducation sound.
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Old 10.05.2013, 06:37 AM   #992
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artits that would make me "lose it" if they announced a new album today:

Frank Ocean
Kendrick
Nas
A$AP Rocky
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You're already ready for another Earl album? Damn we got some short ass attention spans in this thread

I'm still digesting Doris.

Doesn't anyone have an opinion on Event II yet? I thought you all would be bustin out of your trousers.

As for me, I need some new DOOM, some Madlib projects, and that motherfucking new Wu Tang I was promised a year ago!

New Mos Def would b nice too, though I have been revisiting his albums and finding them less awesome than I remembered.

Pusha T and Killah Priest are serious contenders for the year end list.

I can't remember why I liked Hall of Fame. Big Sean has no flow whatsoever. Maybe it just reminded me of Graduation. Whatever, still fun for a listen.
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Old 10.05.2013, 01:34 PM   #994
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You're already ready for another Earl album? Damn we got some short ass attention spans in this thread


that's why:

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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...8.story?page=4

Such focus has already paid off, said Steinberg. "He made his own record. He wouldn't listen to anybody. And there were songs — I'm just going to say this, and he's probably going to get mad at me — that could have been top hits on the charts that he recorded but he chose not to put them on the record. He wants to grow into his voice.

"He was like, 'I don't want to have a number one my first time around with this. Can I take my time with this?' I mean, we've had some crazy conversations."
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He became a lightning rod a few weeks ago when he dismissed Jay Z's new album, "Magna Carta Holy Grail," in a simple (cussed) tweet: "If you really [messed] with Magna Carta then unfollow me." The tweet prompted much backlash and a few more tweets from Earl, including: "I hope that opinions on my material throughout my career are based on the quality of it and not how big my name is."

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Killah Priest are serious contenders for the year end list.


Agreed, but that record is too long, too deep, and too complex to make a more mainstream Year's Best list. That is why it was self-released in the first place, Priest seems to be more concerned with releasing his art in his way on his terms than making it in any way a commercial success. Definitely and hands down best record (of any genre) of 2013, but it'd be a stretch to convince anyone
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I'm so behind on hip hop now. :/

Last few months I haven't been keeping up.
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^ gotcha.

93 'til Infinity is getting the 20th anniversary reissue treatment soon.

"Half our homies are now dead, in jail, or super thugs," Opio says. "But our response to the hood was different. We were trying to elevate and expand our minds through psychedelics and books. When we were growing up, the thugs told us that they'd kill us if we sold dope with them. They told us that we needed to be the lawyers."

LEGENDS.
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So seeing as everyone is so focused on what's just come out and all that, let's go back a bit.

Most over-rated rap/hip-hop albums?
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Eazy-E! and y'know.. maybe just NWA in general. i used to like them a lot when i was younger.

but now i think that their appeal was always more about the imagery than the music.

and i'd be a liar if i said that Straight Outta Compton is a straight 10/10.

influential? SURE. but they also lacked the intelligence & creativity that the Wu, Quest Tribe & KAST had.

i do like the album though. they just seem like a bunch of goons to me. except for Ice Cube.
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looking back, Lupe's first two albums aren't even that great, despite having a few great songs (which i still listen to from time to time). he had a spark but never fulfilled his potential. Kendrick already shits on him.
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