[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

There was a US presence, and there were deaths, granted, but I don't see how MacArthur being involved prior to it escalating would have caused anything bad to happen.

If anything, MacArthur's advisement about Korea and Vietnam should have probably been listened to.

Saying "we can win, but only if we use nuclear weapons" is not the same as saying "mr. president, let's nuke the fuck out of 'em!"
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ummmm, yes, saying we can win but only if we use nuclear weapons is exactly saying nuke the hell out of them, because that is what using atomic and nuclear weapons consists of. Once the line is crossed, there is no turning back. MacArthur was serious about using strategic nuclear weapons, and that is why he was removed from positions of authority.

and to say that perhaps nuclear weapons should have been used in Korea or Vietnam is insane. You sir, are insane, and apparantly I am crazy myself so for me to point that finger at you is saying something about yr own sanity....

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

You are twisting my words. I said that we shouldn't have done Vietnam and Korea AT ALL. Because we couldn't win without using nuclear weapons.

[ThePits]

Kill 'em all, let God sort them out

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

You are twisting my words. I said that we shouldn't have done Vietnam and Korea AT ALL. Because we couldn't win without using nuclear weapons.

I apologize, because that is correct, but that is NOT the argument at all that MacArthur was making to Kennedy in the 1960s.