Is Kid A an innovative album? - Page 2

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 04:13 PM

Yes yes yes yes.Don't worry,i wouldn't take offence either way.

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice

It's a good pop album.

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I don't really think it is a pop album at all.Way too rock conscious in a kind of'I wanna make you think' (erm....) way for that.It most certainly hasn't been concieved as an album to particularly make you think that it is a pop one either.Melody is present in it but the pop tag is really stretching it out of its 'guitar band with a guilt' genetics.

m^a(t)h · 11.06.2006, 04:30 PM

the reason i think of it more than just as a "pop album with electronic beats" is because the music, meaning the harmony and time, are so well done. Most of the songs are done in odd time signatures not found in other rock band's music. That alone gave me a reason to listen to it.

Glice · 11.06.2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

I don't really think it is a pop album at all.Way too rock conscious in a kind of'I wanna make you think' (erm....) way for that.It most certainly hasn't been concieved as an album to particularly make you think that it is a pop one either.Melody is present in it but the pop tag is really stretching it out of its 'guitar band with a guilt' genetics.

Fair point... I'm sure I've told you before that I think of anything, absolutely anything, within the generic pop format as being pop. That is, if it has a chorus, or not, and hooks, then it's pop. This includes Einsteurzende or Diamanda or the majority of other things. It's a debatable point, but ultimately I am, as ever, entirely correct.

scott v · 11.06.2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice

Fair point... I'm sure I've told you before that I think of anything, absolutely anything, within the generic pop format as being pop. That is, if it has a chorus, or not, and hooks, then it's pop. This includes Einsteurzende or Diamanda or the majority of other things. It's a debatable point, but ultimately I am, as ever, entirely correct.

your last sentence makes you come off as sounding like the pompous egotistical type with a very broad definition of "pop".

Savage Clone · 11.06.2006, 05:06 PM

Check sarcasm detector.

Glice · 11.06.2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scott v

CUNT. CUNT. CUNTCUNTCUNT

No, I agree entirely.

!@#$%! · 11.06.2006, 05:13 PM

ha ha-- i like most of the answers here

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice

Fair point... I'm sure I've told you before that I think of anything, absolutely anything, within the generic pop format as being pop. That is, if it has a chorus, or not, and hooks, then it's pop. This includes Einsteurzende or Diamanda or the majority of other things. It's a debatable point, but ultimately I am, as ever, entirely correct.

I'm sorry,you are entirely right.I swear i heard the sound of suffering children coming from my Nike trainers when i took them off 3 minutes ago.....and my feet don't stink Tokolosh,so sit calmly on your chair and don't get too excited.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 11.06.2006, 06:06 PM

all I have to say about this board is "haterz"

on whatever scale you compare it too, Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail To The Thief is an innovative series of music, especially when compared to say, Pablo Honey. Just cuz a shit load of DIY and small time bands are doing similar shit, doesn't discredit the originality of Radiohead.

m^a(t)h · 11.06.2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

all I have to say about this board is "haterz"

on whatever scale you compare it too, Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail To The Thief is an innovative series of music, especially when compared to say, Pablo Honey. Just cuz a shit load of DIY and small time bands are doing similar shit, doesn't discredit the originality of Radiohead.

agree. and all you guys say is that they were not innovative, but you dont give any examples of this, i mean specific examples......

porkmarras · 11.06.2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

all I have to say about this board is "haterz"

on whatever scale you compare it too, Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail To The Thief is an innovative series of music, especially when compared to say, Pablo Honey. Just cuz a shit load of DIY and small time bands are doing similar shit, doesn't discredit the originality of Radiohead.

Look,i'm sure you are a good bloke and all that but sometimes i think you smoke too much pot or probably it's just the misleading avatar.

Onani Nic · 11.06.2006, 06:52 PM

radiohead can go suck a lemon

alyasa · 11.06.2006, 09:10 PM

Prog rock with samplers. (OK Computer, now that was a masterpiece of rock and roll depression and despair, in shades of grey, greyer and gloomiest.)

LifeDistortion · 11.06.2006, 10:04 PM

The main reason it is considered a landmark album is because its Radiohead, and up until that album, Radiohead had been progessively a electric guitar band. So they went the complete oppisite side of the spectrum for themsevles by making a low-key, quieter album. It certianly has its influnces from other bands that have come before them, so they weren't exactly using methods in recording that have never been done, but in terms of surprising thier fans, it was a big change for them, and it was risky, it was a big change in musical direction and it definately polorized thier fans when it first came out.

alyasa · 11.06.2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion

...in terms of surprising thier fans, it was a big change for them, and it was risky, it was a big change in musical direction and it definately polorized thier fans when it first came out.

But, in terms of the rest of the world, it was a quirky electronica album by a serious-ish prog rock band. Not exactly very innovative; but then again the fact that it was released by a major label and marketed as a mainstream rock album says a lot about the shifting musical landscapes and the shifting trends in music and the music industry then. It popularized elecronica to some extent; and that may be the breadth of its innovativeness...

therealglenstyler · 11.07.2006, 11:12 AM

LittlePuppetBoy · 11.07.2006, 05:00 PM

Strange, I was just listening to that album today. I'm sure there is more experimental works out there, but it's still one of my favourites.

davenotdead · 11.08.2006, 04:16 AM

kid a was most definitely a risk from the band that made the bends...and its quite experimental from a mainstream act...its also the best radiohead album and probably the best album of the century.*

*(tied with Animal Collective's Feels)

porkmarras · 11.08.2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead

kid a was most definitely a risk from the band that made the bends...and its quite experimental from a mainstream act...its also the best radiohead album and probably the best album of the century.*

*(tied with Animal Collective's Feels)

Sorry,can you rephrase that for me?Ta!

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m^a(t)h expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,204	the reason i think of it more than just as a "pop album with electronic beats" is because the music, meaning the harmony and time, are so well done. Most of the songs are done in odd time signatures not found in other rock band's music. That alone gave me a reason to listen to it.
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SuchFriendsAreDangerous invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fucking Los Angeles Posts: 14,801	all I have to say about this board is "haterz" on whatever scale you compare it too, Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail To The Thief is an innovative series of music, especially when compared to say, Pablo Honey. Just cuz a shit load of DIY and small time bands are doing similar shit, doesn't discredit the originality of Radiohead. __________________ Today Rap music is the Lakers
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LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	The main reason it is considered a landmark album is because its Radiohead, and up until that album, Radiohead had been progessively a electric guitar band. So they went the complete oppisite side of the spectrum for themsevles by making a low-key, quieter album. It certianly has its influnces from other bands that have come before them, so they weren't exactly using methods in recording that have never been done, but in terms of surprising thier fans, it was a big change for them, and it was risky, it was a big change in musical direction and it definately polorized thier fans when it first came out.
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LittlePuppetBoy expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aylmer(now Gatineau), Quebec Posts: 1,756	Strange, I was just listening to that album today. I'm sure there is more experimental works out there, but it's still one of my favourites. __________________
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davenotdead invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,784	kid a was most definitely a risk from the band that made the bends...and its quite experimental from a mainstream act...its also the best radiohead album and probably the best album of the century.* (tied with Animal Collective's Feels*)
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