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Originally Posted by Derek

I've already spoken about the Tories cutting the NHS budget and selling it off bit by bit to privatised companies, in effect starting to emulate the American model.. but you want to just keep making me repeat myself eh!!

no, but see, that points to the problem of a lack of choice

basically if you don't like your health care provider you're stuck with it for x years till the government changes

you're AT THE MERCY OF TORIES

i only need to wait for the next open enrollment in october and new policy activates when the new year rings

[Derek]

Originally Posted by tesla69

important to not confuse the current crop of identity politics as leftist or liberal - they are neither.

Hot take (on here for some reason at least): Identity politics is a good thing that has revitalised the left and helped to link classism to issues of other marginalised groups, effectively strengthening it and broadening its appeal. The minority "I post on tumblr and I'm a transracial bigender otherkin polyamorous weirdo" faction are obviously all about showboating their forced uniqueness but people don't seem to like separating the two all that much.

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e.g. i used to have an HMO and it was shit. it's like government health care but privately managed. some are even nonprofits so there's no "profit motive!" to blame.

i didn't like it and changed to a PPO. i like it a lot.

[Derek]

I don't even know how to reply to that stuff anymore, it all just misses the point. I'm glad you enjoy your health insurance man, if you believe it to be good then who am I to say otherwise

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Originally Posted by Derek

I don't even know how to reply to that stuff anymore, it all just misses the point. I'm glad you enjoy your health insurance man, if you believe it to be good then who am I to say otherwise

i'm not missing the point. i have a different perspective.

i would not wanna be stuck for 12 years with torycare *shudder*

(12 years and counting...)

[Derek]

I don't either, and it illustrates the problem of leaving a national health service underfunded, not that the model as a whole is bad.

[The Gazpacho Gestapo]

i fart on your health care

hows that for medical attention?>

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Originally Posted by Derek

I don't either, and it illustrates the problem of leaving a national health service underfunded, not that the model as a whole is bad.

well, in a perfect world, we wouldn't even need health care

but in the real world... having your health care at the mercy of politicians can literally become a death trap

my health insurance is actually a product of a local non-profit healthcare system that developed around a large hospital. no politicians involved. just doctors, administrators, a board of directors...

their insurance covers services with that hospital, various associated clinics, specialized heart and cancer centers, plus a network of authorized providers all over the state.

there's a deductible that keeps me cost conscious and a maximum out of pocket that keeps me from going bankrupt.

they also have associated networks out of state so if i'm traveling i can go there. works kinda like a co-op. it's really pretty good.

now they have video visits which are free of charge. i can basically get a nurse practitioner over video chat in less than 15 minutes, then be issued a prescription or referred to urgent care, etc. not as nice as having a doctor do home visits but it's quick and at my fingertips.

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Originally Posted by The Gazpacho Gestapo

i fart on your health care

hows that for medical attention?>

oh! gazpacho! i didn't realize it was you for a moment lmao

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

One more point: I haven't yet heard anyone in the media discussing the massive loss of credibility they've undergone as a result of their slavish devotion to the DNC throughout the Mueller investigation.

For anyone with their eyes open, Chomsky removed any legitimacy they had in the 1980's. The millenials seem to think they know everything because they get their propaganda so fast. We have video pods going uip and down the avenues here in NYC broadcasting a constant stream of propaganda.





I think Streisand exemplifies the Resistance, they scream inanities about Trump but are soft on child rape. This is why the "dems" were so upset when Trump shut down the border, their crop of fresh meat was interrupted.


~His sexual needs were his sexual needs, coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has,” she told the Times.

“You can say ‘molested,’ but those children, as you heard them say [the grown-up Robson and Safechuk], they were thrilled to be there. They both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them.”

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haldol alert

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anyway, speaking of healthcare, the ghouls are ready to dismantle obamacare again, without offering any alternative.

[Bytor Peltor]

The Post never disappoints: )

 

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ok, looking behind the circus into the actual shit hitting the fan:

with gorsuch and kavanope on the bench, barr as ag, satan himself wants to strike down obamacare completely

get ready for a health care tsunami

[Rob Instigator]

If you feel that Barr's 5 page summary of the Mueller report was a joke, imagine the 3 sentence summary they had to craft to read to Preznit Trumpo! That bitch can't read!!!!!

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

ok, looking behind the circus into the actual shit hitting the fan:

with gorsuch and kavanope on the bench, barr as ag, satan himself wants to strike down obamacare completely

get ready for a health care tsunami

Trump had a really great week so far. And now he is going to nuke Obamacare and set the stage for 2020?

[Skuj]

Or, to put it another way:

Dems are having a really bad week, but now this golden egg will land on their laps?

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Originally Posted by Skuj

Trump had a really great week so far. And now he is going to nuke Obamacare and set the stage for 2020?

Originally Posted by Skuj

Trump had a really great week so far. And now he is going to nuke Obamacare and set the stage for 2020?

not so much worried about trumpetta as about the casualties

im lucky to have employee provided insurance through my wife, but im thinking about not just the obvious poor, but also all the self-employed, entrepreneurial, early retired, small business people, students, etc, who rely on this program for their safety and/or economic independence, they’re about to get fucked by this animal just out of spite for obama.

i think if the shit hits the fan my state should be politically equipped to respond, but without the support of federal funds, maintaining the level of coverage is really a long shot. i think half of the population here relies on expanded medicaid.

worst of all is that the party of no proposed exactly zilch while they were in control of congress, so it’s not like they have some spiffy solution to offer. it’s just right back to the abyss for many.

that mother fucker... i’d wish he’d burn in hell, but he rules over the place so no use in that.

2020.... and a 2021 inauguration... well i hope it’s a long-ass lawsuit. if i’m not mistaken the supreme court works just wothin a period of a few months so if they take it up... catastrophe could arrive sooner than expected

[Skuj]

The fact that we are even talking about Obamacare now, and that it is in the headlines right after Mueller's great gift to Trump, speaks volumes about Team Trump's organizational skills.

Thank you Mr Trump!!

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

worst of all is that the party of no proposed exactly zilch while they were in control of congress, so it’s not like they have some spiffy solution to offer. it’s just right back to the abyss for many.

This is the part that cracks me up the most. The GOP had control of EVERTHING for two years, and what did they offer in the place of big bad evil horrible Obamacare? "We are going to have great health care. Hugely."

A 5 year old must recognize that having zero alternative/plan/vision is absolutely laughable.

Only in Trumpworld can such a scenario occur.

I thank the political gods for this gift right after Mueller.