[atsonicpark]

http://megaupload.com/?d=H5XBHB0H = The REAL Frank Zappa Book! Inspiring, funny, scary, brilliant, frustrating, ridiculous man! Random quote: "The most important thing in art is the Frame. For painting: literally; for other arts: figuratively -- because, without this humble appliance, you can't know where The Art stops and The Real World begins. You have to put a 'box' around it because otherwise, what is that shit on the wall? If John Cage, for instance, says, "I'm putting a contact microphone on my throat, and I'm going to drink carrot juice, and that's my composition," then his gurgling qualifies as his composition because he put a frame around it and said so. "Take it or leave it, I now will this to be music." After that it's a matter of taste. Without the frame-as-announced, it's a guy swallowing carrot juice".............. dead-on!

Originally Posted by DanielCarlson

Is that Zappa & Beefheart album any good? I mean, it's a combination that sure sounds like a shitload of awesomeness, but who knows?

no. They both really hated each other at this point and it shows through. No energy at all.. there's a few cool songs but it doesn't reach the insane brilliance of shiny beast, doc at the radar station, and ice cream for crow, which would come shortly after this.

edit: okay, Supercreep said basically the same thing

[noisereductions]

thanks adam that book is awesome but short

[atsonicpark]

No prob, I used to write off Zappa because the first stuff I heard was his more silly irritating joke song stuff. But then I got into his early stuff, where he was just some ridiculous virtuoso, talented genius of a composer. He's no Beefheart, but I still would rate a good 10 of his albums above just about anyone else's, and he's always interesting to read about.

[noisereductions]

yeah my first stuff I heard by him was jokey and I hated it. But later discovered ONLY IN IT which is unreal, and then of course "Peaches En Regalia" is one of the greatest compositions ever. EVER. I have the All Music Guide to his albums, which is brief but interesting.

[Mortte Jousimo]

1. Were Only In It For the Money
2. Hot Rats
3. Bongo Fury
4. Absolutely Free
5. Freak Out

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by DanielCarlson

Is that Zappa & Beefheart album any good? I mean, it's a combination that sure sounds like a shitload of awesomeness, but who knows?

I think Bongo Fury is great album. Not as great as We´re only in it or Trout mask for example, but much greater than Bluejeans and moonbeams (and I think Bluejeans is not as bad as many thinks). I think it´s more Zappa album than Beefheart, because there are only 2 songs in which Beefheart made lyrics, all the other material is from Zappa.

[Pelle]

Bumping this thread, I love Zappa and heres my 5 favourite (even though Id like to write my top 50, haha!)

1. Sleep dirt
2. Ship Arriving Too late to save a drowning witch
3. The man from utopia
4. Zappa in new york
5. Them Or us

[Cooking With Satan]

Zappa performing The Purple Lagoon on SNL back in '76:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn94dEpKGFw

You certainly won't see performances like that on SNL anymore.

Get in quick before NBC take it off.