I don't think you need to know that much theory to make good music, not anymore than you need just simple and constant practice. I totally agree that most music students end up bored with it because of theory taking over from what's a very important process of making music: the enthusiasm for it. That's not to say that music theory hasn't got a place, and it would be downright foolish to claim such a thing, but still i'm yet to meet a student that is immersed in music theory or classical music who i find truly versatile.

[val-holla-ing]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

I don't think you need to know that much theory to make good music, not anymore than you need just simple and constant practice. I totally agree that most music students end up bored with it because of theory taking over from what's a very important process of making music: the enthusiasm for it. That's not to say that music theory hasn't got a place, and it would be downright foolish to claim such a thing, but still i'm yet to meet a student that is immersed in music theory or classical music who i find truly versatile.

oddly enough, the only thing that's been keeping me in school for music (other than my awesome sax teacher) is music theory. it engages me a whole lot more than just talking about the music. it also makes writing music and improvisation more personal for me, since i enjoy it so much.

[val-holla-ing]

i don't have a myspace for any of the music i do on my own (i'm super protective of it all), but my band has a myspace.

http://myspace.com/wildernesspangs
everything is from our first record that got put out in february. some of it i'm proud of, some i'm not. let me know what you think!

[val-holla-ing]

thanks. i don't think myspace lets you put a 5th song on there, though. unless i missed the memo...

as for the idm, obviously not me, but i'm positive that someone on the board does it.

[noumenal]

Originally Posted by Glice

I'm sure I've sent you PMs about Peter Kivy's take on this point before - if memory serves, I think it came across in that thing I sent you a while ago, my dissertation jobby? If I didn't, you really should read Peter Kivy, he's very, very good at consolidating music theory with cultural theory/ philosophy - it's basically him and Adorno, as far as I'm concerned (with an honourary mention of Schopenhauer.

Yes, I remember this. I was just throwing it out there again to see if there were any other comments on the issue. Kivy's Introduction to a Philosophy of Music has been damn near the top of my list for a while, and IT WILL BE READ THIS SUMMER (I'm most curious to check out the bibliography or recommended works). I will be drowning in Adorno soon because he is read heavily where I'm going in the fall. I look forward to it. I already have a firm grasp on the Schopenhauer--am I wrong to think that you threw him in there for my sake?

[Glice]

Schopenhauer I know by proxy; Adorno I know for being entirely essential and having read nearly everything he's written on music. I disagree in large parts with him, but he is entirely indispensible, to my mind. Schopenhauer, I would offer, is of lesser importance to my mind because I can bastardise a pre-20th Century aesthetics of music out of Kant.

Bleh. I'm ill and can't write.

[atsonicpark]

i have a theory about music. it roxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

except "rather ripped".