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Old 05.28.2020, 11:03 PM   #1
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Old 05.28.2020, 11:23 PM   #2
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Good. The police force here has gotten away with murdering black and brown people here for way too long. This guy worked right next door to where I work and his life mattered. He was already subdued and on the ground in handcuffs and that garbage cop had a knee on his neck until he died. On camera. With other officers doing nothing to stop him. This powder keg has been waiting to go off for a long time.


Edit: national guard is on its way over there right now.
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Old 05.29.2020, 02:07 AM   #3
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I'm sorry to hear that this incident hit so close to home for you. I heard the guy in the convenience store who called the police saying, in essence, that Mr. Floyd seemed to be in some degree of distress or emotional disturbance. The cops knelt on his neck for a full seven minutes before he apparently died. I once saw a hawk kill a pigeon in a similar manner (gripping his neck with his foot, apparently until he could no longer feel the pigeon's neck pulse). The Minneapolis Police Department certainly seems to have had something coming.

Yet the looting and burning of stores that the people in the area need seems to have nothing to do with any legitimate grievance. Even though some of the stores looted and burned (Target, Auto Zone etc.) were units of giant corporate chains, they still had items for sale that the local people need just to get along, and I wonder if their insurers will even allow them to rebuild in those areas.

The police station is another matter, as it is definitely a politically pointed target, yet, even so, the use of violence against that target, although perhaps satisfying to many, still places the spotlight on the rioters while taking it off of the blatant cop murder of Mr. Floyd. In other words, political violence tends to make the protestors the issue, at the expense of what should actually be the issue.

Further, President Trump's tweet was both legally wrong and morally indefensible. The President has no power to send in the National Guard, which is the prerogative of the governor of the State, who, in this case, has already taken that step. The only time the President can take such action on his own is if he has grounds to federalize the National Guard in the face of State or local refusal to enforce Federal law. as happened in certain civil rights-related incidents in the South in the 1960's. And the part about shooting if they're looting takes no cognizance of the local situation and places the protection of material goods above the value of human life. SHAME on him!
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Old 05.29.2020, 08:44 AM   #4
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Even though some of the stores looted and burned (Target, Auto Zone etc.) were units of giant corporate chains, they still had items for sale that the local people need just to get along, and I wonder if their insurers will even allow them to rebuild in those areas.

So it's nearly excusable to loot and burn "units of giant corporate chains"? Never mind that corporations employ 40% of the U.S. workforce. Never mind that Target employs 360,000 people and is the #1 employer in Minneapolis/St. Paul. Never mind that you'll be lining up in 6 months for a vaccination formulated, developed, and manufactured by a corporation. WTF.
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Old 05.29.2020, 09:15 AM   #6
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Our county jail and juvenile justice center has prevalent signage stating: “loud and abusive language does not justify use of force!”

What happened in Minnesota is sickening!

Required yearly training reenforces “handle with care” techniques where safety, labored breathing and ease of movement are the main focus.

Verbal de-escalation training as to avoid a “take down” if possible. Also, verbal intervention from a fellow officer to try and defuse the situation if the original officer has lost control of the situation......or his emotions!!!

Once a suspect is in handcuffs, they really shouldn’t go face down on the ground again! Possibly to a seated position if waiting for a transport.

The Minnesota Police Department quickly responded by firing four officers.

The mob like activities from some of the Minnesota citizens are what I would expect if:

A) the officers weren’t charged
B) officers stood trial and found not guilty

Erik, I’m sorry this happened in your community and more importantly, to someone you knew. I hope the police and other authorities can gain control of the situation before the mob rules reek havoc on your place of employment or anyone else you know.
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What happened in Minnesota is sickening!

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The mob like activities from some of the Minnesota citizens are what I would expect if:

A) the officers weren’t charged
B) officers stood trial and found not guilty


I totally agree. While the officers have been fired, why have they not yet been arrested? Does the video not present enough evidence? Making the arrests might help calm things down, no?
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If any one of us murdered someone at work on camera in front of a bunch of people in broad daylight we would definitely be in jail right now.
Also, when white right wing anti covid-19 protesters showed up at the state capital with guns they were treated with kid gloves. Severe dissonance.
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The officers also have not been charged with anything yet, which is definitely one of the reasons people are so angry. You know, aside from the fact that our police department has gotten away with this sort of thing many times and the recent and not so recent past. Then you factor in that Amy klobuchar was State prosecutor when this exact person was involved in another death and declined to prosecute him then. And the crazy coincidence that they both worked security at the same bar for years on end.... On and on and on. I lived in that neighborhood for 20 years and while I don't live there anymore, a lot of my friends and bandmates do and it's pretty heartbreaking.
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The knee on the neck is not an authorized method of restraint in police training.
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I totally agree. While the officers have been fired, why have they not yet been arrested? Does the video not present enough evidence? Making the arrests might help calm things down, no?

My best guess, it’s due to the “crime” being committed by the officer during the performance of his duties. No doubt these officers are members of a union and subject to it’s legal representation.

While the officers have yet to be charged, it’s my understanding an autopsy has yet to be performed and this must be completed to determine “cause of death.” This may seem like a formality, but it’s part of the process.

Typically in a officer involved shooting or in a harassment case, the officer is pulled from active duty, usually with benefits, until the conclusion of the investigation. Then, depending on the conclusion, the officer is “no-billed” and restored to active duty or charges are filed. Once charged, the officer is usually allowed so many hours to surrender and often times the officer chooses to surrender somewhere else in the state......away from fellow employees and media scrutiny.
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Thanks for posting the link, stayed up until 0100 watching the live stream and watched again this morning. I love getting the local perspective on everything.
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CNN reporter and crew arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests over George Floyd killing
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BREAKING: Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who killed George Floyd, has been arrested in Minneapolis, the Minnesota Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington announced.


AP News: Minneapolis cop who knelt on handcuffed black man arrested

 
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BREAKING: Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who killed George Floyd, has been arrested in Minneapolis, the Minnesota Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington announced.

A strong step in the right direction.
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A strong step in the right direction.

Absolutely. Now for justice. This cannot keep going on. Cops are supposed to save lives not take them.
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A strong step in the right direction.
But not enough. All of them were fully complicit in causing his death and should go down for murder. At the very least.
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'bout damn time to be quite fuckin' honest. It's not good it had to come to this, but what else do the people have to do to be heard? Any sort of protest be it peaceful or not hasn't been working. When they organize and try to bring such things to light, America ignores it. Now that they actually have America's attention, America talk's shit.
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Third degree murder is the fucking charge!??! What a fucking weak ass bunch of bullshit.
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