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Old 05.02.2020, 10:54 PM   #21
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The divisiveness in the democratic party is a good thing because there's legitimate debate over who's best for positions, but it's bad because it's going to cause them to probably lose because there's not that same issue o the other side in the major party.
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Old 05.02.2020, 11:03 PM   #22
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Yes, but the same applies for the other side.

Whatever, US politics is a total shitfest and the sooner your country falls apart the better.
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Old 05.02.2020, 11:05 PM   #23
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anywya glad to see everyone fell for the maga chud’s thread

anyway i agree that biden is not the best candidate ever but for fucks sakes anything and anyone is better than the orange turd and if you can’t see it you never will so why bother talking kindly cunt off.
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Old 05.02.2020, 11:11 PM   #24
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"At least he's better than that" is how most political systems have ended up in the shit they are. As conservative parties become more regressive and oppositional to the state of the world, the token 'progressive' opponents end up sliding with them as part of some mythical hope that they can still claim electability. Since one side ends up splitting the vote between left and 'left' parties, they fall away and the talking heads on the right swoop in to power; again.

Oh, I forgot - I'm just this idealistic millennial* with no idea about how the world actually works. I'll just shut up then.

*I'm not a millennial at all; criticism of them is generally code for "I hate young people and wish they'd stop agitating for change!"
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Old 05.02.2020, 11:14 PM   #25
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I think that part of all this is what baffles me the most.

Ok, perhaps the arguement can be made that Dems stepped in it with their stance on Kavanaugh vs how they treat the Biden allegations.

Meanwhile, Trump is POTUS.

It's only baffling if you continue to believe that the bulk of those people who voted him in were voting for him, rather than against what they saw as an utterly broken, political establishment (that they felt Hillary embodied).

I've no doubt that were you able to vote in this election you'd vote for the Dem candidate, most likely still Biden, but I'd also assume that's because you really want Trump out, rather than because you're some kind of Biden fan. It works both ways, is all.
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I think we are all a little bit stressed lately.

At the end of the day, I cannot help but feel that Biden is someone who, although imperfect, has a kind heart, and a soul which guides him.

Trump has none of those things.
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Old 05.02.2020, 11:19 PM   #28
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It's only baffling if you continue to believe that the bulk of those people who voted him in were voting for him, rather than against what they saw as an utterly broken, political establishment (that they felt Hillary embodied).

I've no doubt that were you able to vote in this election you'd vote for the Dem candidate, most likely still Biden, but I'd also assume that's because you really want Trump out, rather than because you're some kind of Biden fan. It works both ways, is all.

I swear I posted my previous one before I saw this!!

WRONG!! Biden has something that Trump will never have, and I happen to think that certain something is important, especially in a POTUS.
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Old 05.02.2020, 11:23 PM   #29
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I think we are all a little bit stressed lately.

At the end of the day, I cannot help but feel that Biden is someone who, although imperfect, has a kind heart, and a soul which guides him.

Trump has none of those things.
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Old 05.03.2020, 04:12 PM   #30
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I used to think he was a joke until I heard about him standing up to Corn Pop.

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Old 05.04.2020, 06:41 AM   #32
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Whatever, US politics is a total shitfest and the sooner your country falls apart the better.

Ok, there are views and opinions from all over the spectrum expressed on these pages, but does everyone here realize there is one among us who is explicitly cheering for the USA’s failure and all the pain and suffering that goes with it?
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Yes, but the same applies for the other side.

Whatever, US politics is a total shitfest and the sooner your country falls apart the better.
The US falling apart would mean lots of death and misery for people here, and for your country, China taking over as global hegemon. I doubt you want that, unless you like the idea of an global economy based in service to one political party in one country and all its backward ideals, under threat of occupation/destruction for not playing along.
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Old 05.04.2020, 04:28 PM   #34
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The US falling apart would mean lots of death and misery for people here, and for your country, China taking over as global hegemon. I doubt you want that, unless you like the idea of an global economy based in service to one political party in one country and all its backward ideals, under threat of occupation/destruction for not playing along.

Oh no, the threat of foreign manipulation from a global power? Thank God the Americans would never do something like that.
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Ok, there are views and opinions from all over the spectrum expressed on these pages, but does everyone here realize there is *one among us who is explicitly cheering for the USA’s failure and all the pain and suffering that goes with it?

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Old 05.04.2020, 07:05 PM   #36
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Oh no, the threat of foreign manipulation from a global power? Thank God the Americans would never do something like that.

There is a long anti-Imperialist tradition here, as exemplified by Mark Twain's writings as a member of the Anti-Imperialist League during the Spanish-American War:

The New York Herald, 15 October 1900:

But I have thought some more, since then, and I have read carefully the treaty of Paris, and I have seen that we do not intend to free, but to subjugate the people of the Phillippines. We have gone there to conquer, not to redeem. . .
It should, it seems to me, be our pleasure and duty to make those people free, and let them deal with their own domestic questions in their own way. And so I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land.

And in February 1901:

There must be two Americas: one that sets the captive free, and one that takes a once-captive's new freedom away from him, and picks a quarrel with him with nothing to found it on; then kills him to get his land. . .
True, we have crushed a deceived and confiding people; we have turned against the weak and the friendless who trusted us; we have stamped out a just and intelligent and well-ordered republic; we have stabbed an ally in the back and slapped the face of a guest; we have bought a Shadow from an enemy that hadn't it to sell; we have robbed a trusting friend of his land and his liberty; we have invited clean young men to shoulder a discredited musket and do bandit's work under a flag which bandits have been accustomed to fear, not to follow; we have debauched America's honor and blackened her face before the world. . .
And as for a flag for the Philippine Province, it is easily managed. We can have a special one--our States do it: we can have just our usual flag, with the white stripes painted black and the stars replaced by the skull and cross-bones.

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President Trump's isolationism, at its best, could place the US back in its pre-1898 position as a credible anti-Imperialist force in the world. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
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President Trump's isolationism, at its best, could place the US back in its pre-1898 position as a credible anti-Imperialist force in the world. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
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Good luck with someone who's agitated for war with North Korea and Iran.
And it'd be easier for me to respect your anxieties about Chinese involvement if it wasn't for the fact that Trump himself was trying to get them to interfere with the Biden campaign and the 2020 election. (Washington Post source) (New York Times source) (Wall Street Journal source)
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Sometimes I cannot not look at the quoted comments. Let's all go back to 1898!! That would be just great.

Isolationism is an interesting word. Indeed....Trump is making USA more isolated, in more ways than mere policy making. America is NOT great. China will fucking take over, thank you very much. Nobody is looking for American Leadership in this pandemic. They know better.
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Oh no, the threat of foreign manipulation from a global power? Thank God the Americans would never do something like that.
Manipulation? Ha.

Once China had the world firmly under its political as well as its economic thumb, the CCP would think nothing of dealing with countries that don't act in their interests they same as they do any other domestic uprising.

The US doesn't go around nuking countries that act more in their own interests than ours (much as some people wish otherwise). I have little faith that China would show the same restraint/respect.
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Manipulation? Ha.

Once China had the world firmly under its political as well as its economic thumb, the CCP would think nothing of dealing with countries that don't act in their interests they same as they do any other domestic uprising.

The US doesn't go around nuking countries that act more in their own interests than ours (much as some people wish otherwise). I have little faith that China would show the same restraint/respect.

Wait....I thought the only nuking ever was America against a country that acted more in their own interests than America?

Anyway. You don't think Team Trump is actually CAUSING China to become a political/economic leader of the world? How ironic that all of the anti-China bluster from these idiots will do nothing, when the reality is that the world no longer looks to America for global leadership. America is a tragic joke around the world now.
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