Let's fight : SYR4 appreciation thread w/poll!!! Yeah!!!

greedrex · 09.03.2008, 03:21 PM

SYR 4:
some say it's the best SY LP ever.
some say it's überwankery.

what is yr stance on this rather uh singular piece?
GO!

atsonicpark · 09.03.2008, 03:52 PM

I didn't say it was the best. I said it was among the best.

atsonicpark · 09.03.2008, 03:53 PM

But I almost voted for "I like the cover". That cover rules!

greedrex · 09.03.2008, 03:56 PM

yeah it's wicked.
The first half of CD2 is actually pretty ok.
I'm on to Four6.
Not as bad as i'm remembered it (at all)
The one that really sealed it for me was Piano Piece. This is so ridiculous. If only it was a private joke, BUT IT'S NOT EVEN A PRIVATE JOKE. THEY DID THIS SERIOUSLY!!!!
argh.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 09.03.2008, 03:58 PM

It's rather good.

tesla69 · 09.03.2008, 04:05 PM

edges is some heavy dope

mil_pl · 09.03.2008, 04:09 PM

By the way, I've interested very much in Burdocks track from SYR4, ciello and this discharge's with some kind of jerk's, yeah! What you think of it?

voted for the cover!

noisereductions · 09.03.2008, 05:36 PM

If I'm being honest, I have a tough time making it all the way thru "Pendelum Music" every time. But a lot of SYR4 is bad ass.

Everyneurotic · 09.03.2008, 05:57 PM

this is perpetually tied for me as the best sy album, along with dirty and confusion is sex.

it changed tons of things inside my brain and my life, after i listened to it, i never heard music the same way again.

just amazing, the way it's quietly creepy sometimes, then others is more structured. the best part, i think, is the sequencing, total genius, especially when it gets to the yoko track.

The Earl Of Slander · 09.03.2008, 07:44 PM

I have this on vinyl, so the sequencing is totally different from the CD version. I don't know which is supposed to be the 'right' one. I like the album very much, but I'm sorry to admit that I perhaps admire it in theory more than I enjoy listening to it in practice. It's not really that I don't 'get it', but more that I just rarely feel like actually putting it on, and have only listened to it all the way through in a single sitting on one occasion. So maybe I lose some avant-garde points there, but whatever. That said, I love love love Having Never Written a Note for Percussion, and would still always point to the album as evidence of Sonic Youths greatness not their pretentiousness.

batreleaser · 09.04.2008, 12:56 AM

its fucking great, but it aint the best (ill always be partial to confusion and silver sessions), but when i first heard this, being a punk/indie type skater kid into hardcore and pavement and sy, i was like, damn, i need more. i started checking out avant composers i never woulda even thought about, and got into other types of avant stuff as a whole.

SYRFox · 09.04.2008, 03:09 AM

It's really a great album

noisereductions · 09.04.2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser

its fucking great, but it aint the best (ill always be partial to confusion and silver sessions), but when i first heard this, being a punk/indie type skater kid into hardcore and pavement and sy, i was like, damn, i need more. i started checking out avant composers i never woulda even thought about, and got into other types of avant stuff as a whole.

This, I think was EXACTLY the point. So batreleaser just proved the importance of the release. Haters.

Also, I wanna say that I dont see "Carpenter's Piece For Piano" as any sort of joke. I think it's awesome. I wish I had taken part in its recording.

greedrex · 09.04.2008, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser

i started checking out avant composers i never woulda even thought about, and got into other types of avant stuff as a whole.

yep i really think there was some kind of pedagogic / didactic / educational aim to this release; no matter what anyone thinks of it, they made lots of people want to know more about avant composers, including myself, that's right.

Cantankerous · 09.04.2008, 07:52 AM

it's good. not great. just good.

but i voted for "i don't care" because i don't ever listen to SYR releases with the exception of SYR 1.

noisereductions · 09.04.2008, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex

yep i really think there was some kind of pedagogic / didactic / educational aim to this release; no matter what anyone thinks of it, they made lots of people want to know more about avant composers, including myself, that's right.

RIGHT. Which is great. I think it was mainly an homage and a lesson. And it seems to have worked with a great deal of us.

cagedbird · 11.14.2009, 07:41 PM

I didn't pick up on the pedagogical offerings that SYR4 offered. I have never pursued any work by any of the composers. Yet, I see that pedagogical value embedded in it. I guess I just wanted it to be a continuation of the SYR series. Of course, it is more than that.

Dead-Air · 11.14.2009, 08:37 PM

3 is my favorite SYR, but 4 is a great album, and a fitting artistic statement for the end of the twentieth century.

Skuj · 11.15.2009, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagedbird

I have never pursued any work by any of the composers.

Ironic, given your handle.

LOL, I made a funny.

SYR4 is fucking beautiful, and Sonic Youth covering/interpreting/honouring these people is the single biggest reason why Sonic Youth is my favourite band.

PAULYBEE2656 · 11.15.2009, 12:13 PM

ive my copy signed by thurston and steve...hopuiing to get lee and kim in a couple of weeks and then my 7 year quest to get it signed will be done!

View Poll Results: SYR 4 : shit or wit?
It's the best SY LP ever!	4	16.00%
It fucking sucks. I don't get it.	1	4.00%
I like the cover.	2	8.00%
I don't care.	1	4.00%
This has been done many a times. Get a life.	0	0%
Leave SYR4 aloooooooooooooooooone!	0	0%
It's rather good.	15	60.00%
It's quite shitty.	1	4.00%
I'm speechless. I don't even know what i think of it.	0	0%
SYR what??!!	1	4.00%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

09.03.2008, 03:21 PM	#1
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	SYR 4: some say it's the best SY LP ever. some say it's überwankery. what is yr stance on this rather uh singular piece? GO! __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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09.03.2008, 03:52 PM	#2
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I didn't say it was the best. I said it was among the best. __________________
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09.03.2008, 03:53 PM	#3
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	But I almost voted for "I like the cover". That cover rules! __________________
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09.03.2008, 03:56 PM	#4
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	yeah it's wicked. The first half of CD2 is actually pretty ok. I'm on to Four6. Not as bad as i'm remembered it (at all) The one that really sealed it for me was Piano Piece. This is so ridiculous. If only it was a private joke, BUT IT'S NOT EVEN A PRIVATE JOKE. THEY DID THIS SERIOUSLY!!!! argh. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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09.03.2008, 03:58 PM	#5
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09.03.2008, 04:05 PM	#6
tesla69 Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4,055	edges is some heavy dope
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09.03.2008, 04:09 PM	#7
mil_pl expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 2,462	By the way, I've interested very much in Burdocks track from SYR4, ciello and this discharge's with some kind of jerk's, yeah! What you think of it? voted for the cover! __________________
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09.03.2008, 05:36 PM	#8
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	If I'm being honest, I have a tough time making it all the way thru "Pendelum Music" every time. But a lot of SYR4 is bad ass.
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09.03.2008, 05:57 PM	#9
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	this is perpetually tied for me as the best sy album, along with dirty and confusion is sex. it changed tons of things inside my brain and my life, after i listened to it, i never heard music the same way again. just amazing, the way it's quietly creepy sometimes, then others is more structured. the best part, i think, is the sequencing, total genius, especially when it gets to the yoko track. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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09.03.2008, 07:44 PM	#10
The Earl Of Slander the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,156	I have this on vinyl, so the sequencing is totally different from the CD version. I don't know which is supposed to be the 'right' one. I like the album very much, but I'm sorry to admit that I perhaps admire it in theory more than I enjoy listening to it in practice. It's not really that I don't 'get it', but more that I just rarely feel like actually putting it on, and have only listened to it all the way through in a single sitting on one occasion. So maybe I lose some avant-garde points there, but whatever. That said, I love love love Having Never Written a Note for Percussion, and would still always point to the album as evidence of Sonic Youths greatness not their pretentiousness. __________________ The toothaches got worse, she dreamed of disembodied voices from whose malignance there was no appeal, the soft dusk of mirrors out of which something was about to walk, and empty rooms that waited for her. Your gynaecologist has no test for what she was pregnant with.
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09.04.2008, 12:56 AM	#11
batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	its fucking great, but it aint the best (ill always be partial to confusion and silver sessions), but when i first heard this, being a punk/indie type skater kid into hardcore and pavement and sy, i was like, damn, i need more. i started checking out avant composers i never woulda even thought about, and got into other types of avant stuff as a whole. __________________ listen to pink reason
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09.04.2008, 03:09 AM	#12
SYRFox invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 7,492	It's really a great album
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09.04.2008, 07:52 AM	#15
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	it's good. not great. just good. but i voted for "i don't care" because i don't ever listen to SYR releases with the exception of SYR 1. __________________ RETIRED
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11.14.2009, 07:41 PM	#17
cagedbird the destroyed room Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mid-Manhattan Library Posts: 567	I didn't pick up on the pedagogical offerings that SYR4 offered. I have never pursued any work by any of the composers. Yet, I see that pedagogical value embedded in it. I guess I just wanted it to be a continuation of the SYR series. Of course, it is more than that.
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11.14.2009, 08:37 PM	#18
Dead-Air invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portland OR Posts: 4,300	3 is my favorite SYR, but 4 is a great album, and a fitting artistic statement for the end of the twentieth century. __________________ FuckBook; My Band; My Radio Show; My Flickr Page; Science Fiction Message Board
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11.15.2009, 12:13 PM	#20
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	ive my copy signed by thurston and steve...hopuiing to get lee and kim in a couple of weeks and then my 7 year quest to get it signed will be done! __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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