Do you really exist? - Page 3

GeneticKiss · 12.04.2008, 02:47 AM

Exactly.

Brooklyn isn't a real place.

demonrail666 · 12.04.2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

"Can you prove to yourself that you, or anyone, or anything for that matter, truly exist?"

No, you can't. But I'm willing to exercise a leap of faith in order to believe that you do. After all, I have more reason to believe that you do exist, than that you don't. The consequences of me thinking that you're merely a figment of my imagination would be too grave for me to anything other than just dissolve into inertia and/or mental collapse.

[Sandbag] · 12.04.2008, 09:03 AM

I exist on the best terms i can

gmku · 12.04.2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Prove it.

I'd prefer not to.

I like Magritte, though. Nice painting.

EVOLghost · 12.04.2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss

I think, therefore I am.

Ah you beat me.

floatingslowly · 12.04.2008, 09:49 AM

if I answer "no", do I still have to prove it?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 12.04.2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i don't need to-- since you have not proven your own existence in the first place, i must take that you don't exist, and why should i attempt to prove anything to non-entities? a waste of time!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to !@#$%! again.

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

No, you can't. But I'm willing to exercise a leap of faith in order to believe that you do. After all, I have more reason to believe that you do exist, than that you don't.

you sir, have gotten the brass ring.

believing you exist is a leap of faith. faith is the central tenant of life, as the Apostle Paul explains, "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

pbradley · 12.04.2008, 12:40 PM

Are you asking me?

mangajunky · 12.04.2008, 01:35 PM

I don't exist but I don't not exist.
What I perceive to be me is not who I am and what I perceive to be the world is not what it is. All of this is proven as time goes by and things, people, and myself change in ways that I do not expect.

afterthefact · 12.04.2008, 01:37 PM

Put it this way: If I don't exist, than there is a good chance you don't either. Therefore, I feel no need to make a fool of myself trying to prove something to somebody who doesn't even exist.

pbradley · 12.04.2008, 01:48 PM

Some people relate to me despite a lack of any attempt on my part to relate to them. Yesterday, I got a phone call from a man I've never met to ask me for a donation to my school's senior gift. If "to exist" could be defined so narrowly as an engagement in the comings and goings in this web of relationships that consist of this world, than yes I exist. You can't ask question of that which does not exist, nor could you really say anything of it all. Even a fictional construct of the mind exists in so far as it is a construct of the mind.

!@#$%! · 12.04.2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

No, you can't. But I'm willing to exercise a leap of faith in order to believe that you do. After all, I have more reason to believe that you do exist, than that you don't. The consequences of me thinking that you're merely a figment of my imagination would be too grave for me to anything other than just dissolve into inertia and/or mental collapse.

oh, a human-scale variant of pascal's wager!

clever...

Lurker · 12.04.2008, 03:16 PM

I don't exist.

greedrex · 12.04.2008, 05:40 PM

I exist very much.

Green_mind · 12.04.2008, 05:46 PM

only part of me still exists

Rob Instigator · 12.04.2008, 05:48 PM

We all "exist."

Even if 90% of you were actually bots, programs running on some machine, that program EXISTS. and so does the machine.

the real question is do our ephemeral thoughts and ideas "EXIST"?
that is the mindfuck.

I exist, but to prove existance is nigh impossible, unless i am right next to you and can sock you in the face, so you can experience my existance.
(not that I want to smack you in the face...)

Glice · 12.04.2008, 06:20 PM

Speculative metaphysics is a bit like AIDS - it's shit and it kills you, why bother getting involved in it?

Rob Instigator · 12.04.2008, 06:26 PM

"Speculative Metaphysics" is the height of redundancy

like saying "fake god"

or "Beck Sucks."

we are all guilty! (I love when fugazi play that freaky oceanic riff right after they scream GUILTY!)

greedrex · 12.04.2008, 06:36 PM

^^^ha ha yeah i endorse Rob's last post.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 12.04.2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice

Speculative metaphysics is a bit like AIDS - it's shit and it kills you, why bother getting involved in it?

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

12.04.2008, 02:47 AM	#41
GeneticKiss expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,666	Exactly. Brooklyn isn't a real place. __________________ https://handinthefates.bandcamp.com<--music
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12.04.2008, 09:03 AM	#43
[Sandbag] 100% Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 820	I exist on the best terms i can __________________ My new facebook page for my new mainstream noise band
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12.04.2008, 09:49 AM	#46
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	if I answer "no", do I still have to prove it?
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12.04.2008, 12:40 PM	#48
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	Are you asking me?
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12.04.2008, 01:35 PM	#49
mangajunky expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Englewood, NJ Posts: 1,247	I don't exist but I don't not exist. What I perceive to be me is not who I am and what I perceive to be the world is not what it is. All of this is proven as time goes by and things, people, and myself change in ways that I do not expect. __________________ -Franky Don't let yer meat loaf.
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12.04.2008, 01:37 PM	#50
afterthefact invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,886	Put it this way: If I don't exist, than there is a good chance you don't either. Therefore, I feel no need to make a fool of myself trying to prove something to somebody who doesn't even exist. __________________ "She hated people who thought too much. At that moment, she struck me as an appropriate representative for almost all mankind." - Kurt Vonnegut Cat's Cradle
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12.04.2008, 01:48 PM	#51
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	Some people relate to me despite a lack of any attempt on my part to relate to them. Yesterday, I got a phone call from a man I've never met to ask me for a donation to my school's senior gift. If "to exist" could be defined so narrowly as an engagement in the comings and goings in this web of relationships that consist of this world, than yes I exist. You can't ask question of that which does not exist, nor could you really say anything of it all. Even a fictional construct of the mind exists in so far as it is a construct of the mind.
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12.04.2008, 03:16 PM	#53
Lurker invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: No. 10 Posts: 3,289	I don't exist.
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12.04.2008, 05:40 PM	#54
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	I exist very much. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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12.04.2008, 05:46 PM	#55
Green_mind the end of the ugly Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 827	only part of me still exists
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12.04.2008, 05:48 PM	#56
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,930	We all "exist." Even if 90% of you were actually bots, programs running on some machine, that program EXISTS. and so does the machine. the real question is do our ephemeral thoughts and ideas "EXIST"? that is the mindfuck. I exist, but to prove existance is nigh impossible, unless i am right next to you and can sock you in the face, so you can experience my existance. (not that I want to smack you in the face...) __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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12.04.2008, 06:26 PM	#58
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,930	"Speculative Metaphysics" is the height of redundancy like saying "fake god" or "Beck Sucks." we are all guilty! (I love when fugazi play that freaky oceanic riff right after they scream GUILTY!) __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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12.04.2008, 06:36 PM	#59
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	^^^ha ha yeah i endorse Rob's last post. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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