Go Back   Sonic Youth Gossip > Sonic Gossip
Reload this Page Female Mechanic Now on Duty
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read

 
Thread Tools
Old 11.03.2018, 08:12 PM   #1
d.sound
the destroyed room
 
d.sound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 553
d.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's asses
This song slowly went from one of my lesser favorite ATL songs to in my top 5 all time favorites. The exasperated growl kind of turned me off at first.

One thing sy is good at is holding tension to make a cathartic release.

I love the dualist nature of the lyrics. It is like two songs that would have felt incomplete on their own stuck together for a grander statement. The first half is all empowerment. Aggression that feels pointed at the individual. The second half is feminine, motherly. It feels like it embraces and attunes to all things. The bridge being "modern women cry, modern women don't cry" feels like it is saying these two halves are a complete woman. That you can be feminist and powerful and fight, but also still retain a certain feminine fragility, and both are important.
d.sound is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.03.2018, 08:58 PM   #2
Severian
invito al cielo
 
Severian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 11,737
Severian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's asses
Totally agree.

At first, I didn’t care for it. Then I freaking caught the bug. It’s been one of my favorite songs on one of my favorite albums.

It moves like a gentle storm, too. Love the flow of it.
Severian is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.05.2018, 05:16 AM   #3
greenlight
invito al cielo
 
greenlight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,128
greenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's assesgreenlight kicks all y'all's asses
same here!
__________________







greenlight is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.06.2018, 08:32 AM   #4
Toxa
100%
 
Toxa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evil Empire
Posts: 846
Toxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's assesToxa kicks all y'all's asses
still my least favorite track off ATL. maybe someday I'll join the club.
Toxa is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.06.2018, 06:28 PM   #5
Skuj
invito al cielo
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: See My Top 10.
Posts: 2,685
Skuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's asses
I swear ATL is my fav SY album, and Kim is at her absolute peak on this album.
__________________
Fuckit.
Skuj is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.09.2018, 09:30 AM   #6
Severian
invito al cielo
 
Severian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 11,737
Severian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuj
I swear ATL is my fav SY album, and Kim is at her absolute peak on this album.

It was my favorite for a while — at least, my favorite of the post-Sister and DDN albums — but I think Murray Street got the edge on it at some point, and I’m not sure how ATL, with its various silly moments (“HE’S JUST A KITTEN!”), can compete with Murray Street’s perfection.

It’s one of those instances where certainly ATL has more high, but also more lows. Murray Street doesn’t waste a second or miss a note, and everything fits together perfectly.

ATL > Washing Machine and Dirty and EXST&NS, etc. though. For sure.
Severian is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.09.2018, 10:52 AM   #7
h8kurdt
invito al cielo
 
h8kurdt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In Mulder's Basement room
Posts: 5,459
h8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's asses
You're all crazy.

If I sat down and did a top 5 worst sonic youth songs this would DEFINITELY be in there somewhere. Awful song. Kim's vocals are the big one for me on this one. For the most part I love her voice, but by god this is her at her most nails-down-a-blackboard.
__________________


Down with this sort of thing.
h8kurdt is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.09.2018, 01:45 PM   #8
evollove
invito al cielo
 
evollove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,879
evollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's asses
Even if I agreed, that objectionable affectation lasts only until the three minute mark.

Then some noisy fun, "modern women (don't) cry", the "thousand leaves" ending chunk.

It's a 7:43 minute song, so removing the first three minutes still leaves a solid, satisfying track. (Or even more so, if one hates the beginning)
evollove is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.09.2018, 05:52 PM   #9
Skuj
invito al cielo
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: See My Top 10.
Posts: 2,685
Skuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's asses
I'm almost certain that I am Contre Le Sexisme's biggest fan. I fucking love that strange and beautiful thing. I always remember how it hit me on first spin. What a great way to start a record!!
__________________
Fuckit.
Skuj is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.12.2018, 11:26 AM   #10
Screaming Skull
children of satan
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 390
Screaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by Severian
ATL > Washing Machine and Dirty and EXST&NS, etc. though. For sure.

Sacrilege. Washing Machine is one of SY's most defining moments..it's a flat-out masterpiece. The only thing lower than ATL in their catalog is NYCG&F. All of that faux beat-poetry and hippie nonsense on ATL and NYCG&F is embarrassing. Worst SY-era, hands down...
Screaming Skull is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.12.2018, 01:07 PM   #11
evollove
invito al cielo
 
evollove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,879
evollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's asses
Funny. I rate both ATL and Washing Machine highly (WM is my second or third fav), but Murray Street never grew on me. It leaves me inert.
evollove is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.12.2018, 02:59 PM   #12
h8kurdt
invito al cielo
 
h8kurdt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In Mulder's Basement room
Posts: 5,459
h8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's assesh8kurdt kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by Screaming Skull
Sacrilege. Washing Machine is one of SY's most defining moments..it's a flat-out masterpiece. The only thing lower than ATL in their catalog is NYCG&F. All of that faux beat-poetry and hippie nonsense on ATL and NYCG&F is embarrassing. Worst SY-era, hands down...

Gotta agree with this one. I'm actually baffled at how people can say it's their best album.

However! The irony is that Sunday is actually one of my all time favourite Sonic youth tracks
__________________


Down with this sort of thing.
h8kurdt is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.12.2018, 06:21 PM   #13
Skuj
invito al cielo
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: See My Top 10.
Posts: 2,685
Skuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's assesSkuj kicks all y'all's asses
I think it's time for a 2018 Rank The Sonic Youth Albums thread.
__________________
Fuckit.
Skuj is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.13.2018, 01:21 PM   #14
Screaming Skull
children of satan
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 390
Screaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's assesScreaming Skull kicks all y'all's asses
Ok, I’ll start...

1. Sister - 10/10
2. Daydream Nation - 10/10
3. Washing Machine - 9/10
4. Dirty - 9/10
5. Murray Street - 9/10
6. Evol - 9/10
7. Sonic Nurse - 8/10
8. Goo - 8/10
9. Confusion Is Sex + Kill Your Idols - 8/10
10. Bad Moon Rising - 7/10
11. Experimental Jet Set, Trash & No Star - 7/10
12. The Eternal - 7/10
13. Rather Ripped - 7/10
14. Sonic Youth - 6/10
15. A Thousand Leaves - 6/10
16. New York City Ghosts & Flowers - 5/10
Screaming Skull is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.21.2018, 02:54 PM   #15
d.sound
the destroyed room
 
d.sound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 553
d.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's asses
Im bored. Why not?

Washing Machine
Bad Moon
Sister
EJST&NS
Evol
1000 Leaves
SYR 1
White(y)
Daydream
SY EP
Murray
Dirty
Confusion
Goo
Nurse
NYC Ghosts

Ripped and Eternal are garbage. (Sorry but not that sorry)
d.sound is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.21.2018, 10:07 PM   #16
Severian
invito al cielo
 
Severian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 11,737
Severian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by Screaming Skull
Sacrilege. Washing Machine is one of SY's most defining moments..it's a flat-out masterpiece. The only thing lower than ATL in their catalog is NYCG&F. All of that faux beat-poetry and hippie nonsense on ATL and NYCG&F is embarrassing. Worst SY-era, hands down...

Washing Machine is great, but it’s not better than ATL.

WM was a re-entry point. Is it definitive? Absolutely. But it is musically inferior to ATL on the whole. Less expansive, less daring, less beautiful. ATL sounds like a “Diamond Sea” played in slow motion for an entire album.

No disrespect to WM, but ATL is better. For me anyway.
Severian is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.21.2018, 10:09 PM   #17
Severian
invito al cielo
 
Severian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 11,737
Severian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's asses
1. Sister or DDN
2. DDN or Sister
3. Evol or Murray Street
4. Murray Street or Evol...

You get the idea.

The Eternal is their worst. Not because it’s bad, but because it could have and should have been much better.
Severian is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.22.2018, 01:17 PM   #18
Dr. Eugene Felikson
invito al cielo
 
Dr. Eugene Felikson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,570
Dr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's assesDr. Eugene Felikson kicks all y'all's asses
Wait... wait... wait... I'm not the only one who thinks all that Allen Ginsberg crap is pretentious b.s.? Thank goodness
Dr. Eugene Felikson is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.22.2018, 04:01 PM   #19
d.sound
the destroyed room
 
d.sound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 553
d.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's assesd.sound kicks all y'all's asses
specifically the ginsberg song taints the album for me. if not for that, atl might be as high as number 2 on my list.
d.sound is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 11.22.2018, 05:34 PM   #20
Severian
invito al cielo
 
Severian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 11,737
Severian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's assesSeverian kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by d.sound
specifically the ginsberg song taints the album for me. if not for that, atl might be as high as number 2 on my list.

Of course it’s pretentious, and I didn’t like it at first either, but now I do.

ATL is a *tremendous* headphone-walk-in-the-city listen. I really dig the bohemian vibe of that album and that era of SYR releases.
Severian is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|


Thread Tools

All content ©2006 Sonic Youth