How To make a Noise Guitar? - Page 2

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 04.10.2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

Guitar is too cliche`. Buy some electronics, a mixer, some pedals, and a contact mic.

If someone says something is cliche it obviously isn't.

Green_mind · 04.10.2007, 12:36 PM

How cool is that, shame you lost it in such a way.
What kind of sound did you achieve with the sympathetic bridge you put on, did it dampen and muffle the sound?

raging_nelly · 04.10.2007, 02:18 PM

I keep one of my guitars completely free from strings!

It's a horribly cheap Squire Stratocaster thats been bashed around far too much over the years! The pick-ups were pretty shit to start off with but I think I've fucked em up even more now. Early attempts at Tom Morello style toggle switching have completley buggered the shitty little pickup selector, so much so that just shaking the guitar randomly changes the pick-up selected. With each pickup giving off a different tone and to some extent style (ie one is just a consistent drone, one crackles a lot and jumps around from pitch to pitch and one gives off the really harsh as fuck squeal) of feedback, I just lean against my equally as shitty Fender practise amp (with a hole smashed through the front of course) with the gain and volume up full blast and rattle the guitar around a bit.

Raking various mettalic objects over the pickups (coins work especially well) gives off some HORRIBLE grinding sounds. But really, just experiment and see what works best!

Ive also removed the back plate so I can get to the springs and some of the electronics in the back of the body and ram drumsticks and stuff in there.

But yeah, just experiment and see what happens. Thats the best way...

Oh and pedals (I particularly like phasers) and electronics work well but I prefer guitar noise best as its more interesting trying to work out how various sounds were made with the most basic of equipment in my eyes.

Hope that helps a bit

scott v · 04.10.2007, 02:27 PM

It been done before but perhaps i'd suggest starting out with "prepared guitar"... for a long time i was doing it but then i got tired of it. There are/were a number of guitarists who specifically have used "prepared techniques" in the improv scene that are well known, Kevin Drumm, Fred Frith, Jean-Marc Montera, Masayuki Takayanagi, and most notably Keith Rowe of AMM:

Items to use to attack the guitars strings, neck, body, pickups and whatnot:

golden child · 04.10.2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Yeah I kinda like Merzbow. It depends what mood im in. I find his music lacks dynamics sometimes. Which is one of the key components of 'Noise'

lacks dynamics? check out the rita: http://iheartnoise.com/sounds.htm

Sonic Youth 37 · 04.10.2007, 09:11 PM

I've found out recently that wah is a great noise tool. You can control feedback really well with it.

Throw in a tremolo and chorus after it and you're set.

I personally like to lean the guitar against the amp and tweak pedals for extended noise stuff.

king_buzzo · 04.11.2007, 12:51 AM

-Buy random copy
-Fuck up grounding & electronics
-Fuck up pickups

Green_mind · 04.11.2007, 06:18 PM

Basically, just give your guitar to King_buzzo for a week or two.

SynthethicalY · 04.11.2007, 06:37 PM

Make noise with a Trombone. Or a Triangle.

Cardinal Rob · 04.11.2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Green_mind

Basically, just give your guitar to King_buzzo for a week or two.

You'd just get it back after that time as normal with a retired, "Can't be bothered."

Savage Clone · 04.11.2007, 07:20 PM

Stick a fan on there.

Cardinal Rob · 04.11.2007, 07:57 PM

Listen.

king_buzzo · 04.12.2007, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green_mind

Basically, just give your guitar to King_buzzo for a week or two.

Ha, My jazzmaster is in perfect shape. I fucked up my other 2 strat copies and they are noise making machines now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardinal Rob

You'd just get it back after that time as normal with a retired, "Can't be bothered."

Hahaha. I am lazy afterall

MellySingsDoom · 04.12.2007, 09:36 AM

Have a gander at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solmania

jon boy · 04.12.2007, 09:45 AM

try rubbing things on it. creams and stuff.

jon boy · 04.12.2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal Rob

Listen.

i would love that!

Bunbury · 04.13.2007, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

I'm about to construct (or deconstruct) my first 'noise' guitar. I have few interesting ideas, just wanted to ask if any of you guys have picked up any ideas or tips of your own thay you wouldn't mind sharing.

Buy yourself a pair of ear plugs.

I made a "feedback loop" with a:
Bass-Amp-Overdrive Pedal-Delay Pedal at my friends the other day and now im slightly deaf in one ear.

See you all at No Fun Fest 2008.
cunts.

king_buzzo · 04.13.2007, 02:29 PM

Anyways, I dont think there is such a thing as a noise guitar, its all about amplification. Turn up loud and even an ESP will sound like a noise guitar.

golden child · 04.14.2007, 02:40 AM

yay for solmania !

Norma J · 04.14.2007, 02:56 AM

This threads makes me want to go and create some lush pop melodies.

04.10.2007, 12:36 PM	#22
Green_mind the end of the ugly Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 827	How cool is that, shame you lost it in such a way. What kind of sound did you achieve with the sympathetic bridge you put on, did it dampen and muffle the sound?
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04.10.2007, 02:18 PM	#23
raging_nelly stalker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwich, England Posts: 409	I keep one of my guitars completely free from strings! It's a horribly cheap Squire Stratocaster thats been bashed around far too much over the years! The pick-ups were pretty shit to start off with but I think I've fucked em up even more now. Early attempts at Tom Morello style toggle switching have completley buggered the shitty little pickup selector, so much so that just shaking the guitar randomly changes the pick-up selected. With each pickup giving off a different tone and to some extent style (ie one is just a consistent drone, one crackles a lot and jumps around from pitch to pitch and one gives off the really harsh as fuck squeal) of feedback, I just lean against my equally as shitty Fender practise amp (with a hole smashed through the front of course) with the gain and volume up full blast and rattle the guitar around a bit. Raking various mettalic objects over the pickups (coins work especially well) gives off some HORRIBLE grinding sounds. But really, just experiment and see what works best! Ive also removed the back plate so I can get to the springs and some of the electronics in the back of the body and ram drumsticks and stuff in there. But yeah, just experiment and see what happens. Thats the best way... Oh and pedals (I particularly like phasers) and electronics work well but I prefer guitar noise best as its more interesting trying to work out how various sounds were made with the most basic of equipment in my eyes. Hope that helps a bit __________________ "Thurston's gonna spin 'till he's dizzy... and that's the right move!" www.myspace.com/myboyslashmygirl www.dischordmusic.blogspot.com
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04.10.2007, 02:27 PM	#24
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	It been done before but perhaps i'd suggest starting out with "prepared guitar"... for a long time i was doing it but then i got tired of it. There are/were a number of guitarists who specifically have used "prepared techniques" in the improv scene that are well known, Kevin Drumm, Fred Frith, Jean-Marc Montera, Masayuki Takayanagi, and most notably Keith Rowe of AMM: Items to use to attack the guitars strings, neck, body, pickups and whatnot:
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04.10.2007, 09:11 PM	#26
Sonic Youth 37 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: if there is a bright spot in the universe, the farthest point from it Posts: 9,443	I've found out recently that wah is a great noise tool. You can control feedback really well with it. Throw in a tremolo and chorus after it and you're set. I personally like to lean the guitar against the amp and tweak pedals for extended noise stuff. __________________ "One: Where's the fife? and Two: Gimme the fife."
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04.11.2007, 12:51 AM	#27
king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	-Buy random copy -Fuck up grounding & electronics -Fuck up pickups
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04.11.2007, 06:18 PM	#28
Green_mind the end of the ugly Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 827	Basically, just give your guitar to King_buzzo for a week or two.
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04.11.2007, 06:37 PM	#29
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Make noise with a Trombone. Or a Triangle.
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04.11.2007, 07:20 PM	#31
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,286	Stick a fan on there.
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04.11.2007, 07:57 PM	#32
Cardinal Rob the destroyed room Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In the O.. O.. Organ Loft, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 553	Listen. __________________ lastFM \| RYM \| MySpace
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04.12.2007, 09:36 AM	#34
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	Have a gander at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solmania __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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04.12.2007, 09:45 AM	#35
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04.13.2007, 02:29 PM	#38
king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	Anyways, I dont think there is such a thing as a noise guitar, its all about amplification. Turn up loud and even an ESP will sound like a noise guitar.
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04.14.2007, 02:40 AM	#39
golden child expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,672	yay for solmania ! __________________ blind
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04.14.2007, 02:56 AM	#40
Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	This threads makes me want to go and create some lush pop melodies. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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